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Hello. Hello. Hello. Damien, you are still muted, but we are we are here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Hello. I'm Kevin.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: I'm Damien. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Nice to meet you. Yeah. For the next hour and a half, we're gonna be trying to get things to work maybe successfully. We'll see. We'll talk about the project in just a moment, but I actually thought some more thorough introductions might be in order.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Damien, would you like to tell us who you are and who you work\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: for? Yeah. I'm Damien Murphy, applied engineer here at Deepgram. So, you know, working with customers, building, you know, real time low latency voice spots and transcribing their audio.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Excellent. And I am very, very, very fond of Deepgram, so I'm really excited and thankful that you're joining us for the next little bit. My name's Kevin. I work on the director's core team, and in this workshop or rather, this workshop is part of, Leap Week.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Hopefully, you are already aware, but Leap Week is our week of announcements where we announce new features and also run a series of other events to celebrate directors and our community. We're starting to near the end of the week now, but don't worry. There's still lots more to come. Tomorrow, we are doing a community networking social. And right now, right here, we're gonna be building some cool stuff with directors and Deepgram.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Maybe if we take a moment to talk about the project, that'd be a cool way to to stop. So podcasts. I love podcasts. Podcasts are actually all standards. Podcasts are just an RSS feed that contains some metadata and links to episodes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And in this workshop, we're going to string together using Director's automate and flows, our kind of visual automation, tool, a, you know, semi complex automation where we are going to go grab a RSS feed of a podcast, go grab the latest episode, send it off to Deepgram's transcription service. So maybe before we I jump straight into the whole project, maybe we break down each part. Could you tell us a little bit about, Deepgram's transcription service?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So we're able to process, you know, audio, video, pretty much any format, and turn that into, text. Right? So we'll basically transcribe every bit of speech that's spoken and then give you back a word level and time stamp level, you know, what was spoken. We also have multiple other APIs, which we'll get into a little bit later.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But,\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: I mean, we can we can rock on now. So we're going to go and transcribe these podcasts. I listened to one the other day that was like an hour long. Then we're gonna use this audio intelligence. Tell us about this one.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So we have the ability to pass the transcript once it's transcribed through our audio intelligence features. So this can do things like sentiment analysis, summarization, intent detection, and topic detection. And this can be really useful for, you know, pulling out that valuable metadata, and it's all time stamped as well. So you can even, you know, build an overview of the podcast, using those, audio intelligence features.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Cool. And then you can also understand it on, like, a segment basis as well. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So each part of the the audio that comes through will pick up topics as they happen. So we can do major topics and, minor topics as well.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Awesome. Oh, that's really interesting. Justine, a question here in chat. And, yes, please do use the chat. I will answer the question while encouraging you to use the chat.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Will this demo be available on demand? Yes. Like everything at Leap Week, it is all recorded. It will be available on DIRECTUS TV tomorrow. In fact, the workshop from yesterday with Twilio is already up in our brand new show called Enter the Workshop as you will be able to watch this on demand, of course.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So, but by being here live, you have access to the chat, so take advantage of it. I'll be monitoring it. You can ask either of us questions about Directus or Deepgram or what we're doing, and we'll be more than happy to answer in that. So we're gonna transcribe a latest podcast episode. We are going to use the audio intelligence, features that, Deepgram offers.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I'm gonna struggle because Directus in Deepgram both start with these. So sometimes I might do this. I feel myself maybe doing it already. And then finally, we will use, one of the newer Deepgram products, Text to Speech. Tell us about this one.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So we recently released, our text to speech. It's one of the the lowest latency text to speeches on the market, with high quality voices. So you can get a very low latency text to speech generated at a very low price point as well.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Just to help me understand, because latency only, I suppose, matters well, it doesn't only matter, but it matters more when you're doing live, like, real time stuff. So you can use this real time as well?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And that's where we see a lot of the demand in the market is for, you know, building real time voice box with sub second latency. So with this text to speech, you can get about 250 milliseconds of of, latency for time to first byte.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Excellent. We won't be using it real time today because obviously podcast episodes are already static hosted files, but that's, I suppose, where the latency matters. So you can do, like, true conversational voice bots, I suppose. Cool. So we're gonna do all of that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Just to summarize how this is going to work, we are going to first build a flow that will take in a podcast URL. We will grab the latest podcast episode from that podcast feed. We will send that off to Deepgram to receive a transcript, then we're gonna send it off for, text intelligence, so text to text API that Deepgram offers. We'll talk a little bit about why they're separate when they don't have to be. You can do those 2 steps together, but it will become clear as we go through the workshop.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Then armed with a summary of that podcast, we are going to send it back off to Deepgram to generate a short summary, I suppose, in the audio bite, which we will then save back to the director's project so you can go and listen to it at your leisure. Any questions in the chat? Any thoughts, Damian, before we kick off?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. If anybody wants to sign up for Deepgram, we give $200 in free credits as well. So, you'll be able to transcribe about 750 hours of of audio for for free, essentially.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. It's really, really cool. Really nice way to get started. And indeed, that is what we will be doing today. Okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I think that means we are ready to kind of, jump in and get started. And the very first thing we are going to do here is we are gonna set up a directors project running locally now. I will give you a very quick summary of what Directus is in case you're coming from the Deepgram world and you've not heard of Directus before. So Directus is a really cool back end that you can use as a developer to build your applications. You connect it to a database.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We provide developer tooling and this really beautiful web application which you can use to interact with that data. And it's, suitable for handing to non developers as well, which is not very typical of back end, back end tooling. So we're gonna spin this up, and then we are specifically going to use Directus Automate, which is part of this application in order to build this kind of multistep flow, something that looks a bit like this, except each one will take on one of the steps we described in our project. This project will use some, extensions that we built and published to the marketplace, which is available in all directors projects. We can go and do that together.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And then that very final step where we create a new audio file and save it back to our directors project, we're gonna build that extension together because it doesn't currently exist. So that's that's the kind of rundown of how this is going to shake out. So with that in mind, I have this empty directory here on my local machine. It's just this empty directory called live. Let's move into it here, and we're gonna spin up a director's project.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The first thing we're gonna do is create a docker compose dot yml file. And I do happen to have one here. This is the docker compose file for spinning up directives locally with a SQLite database. There isn't too much to talk about here. We will use the latest version of directives that has been published on Docker Hub.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We have 3 volumes. So these are, directories that exist inside of the Docker container that we are going to map to local directories. 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And you'll notice immediately an upload and extensions and a database folder. So they are the 3 volumes that are inside of the Docker container, but also mapped to a local volume.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It did a whole bunch of, like, first time, you know, seeding, and then we have directives running right now on local host 8055 with my admin, email, and password that we set in the Docker Compose. That's it. That's how I was having set up directives. This is the full fat version of directives running here. It's the same version we host in Directus Cloud, and we can with that jump straight in.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Damian, I might just give you a quick tour of it if that makes sense. We have a database. Yeah. We have a database. It's that SQL like database.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>In here, we can create tables in that database and we can query them. We can interact with the data. Great. We also have users that we can create. We have a whole auth service.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So immediately, we have this admin user that you can invite other users. Users in turn can have various permissions, which grant them access to do different actions on collection. So create, read, update, delete, and share. We also connect to your asset storage, or you can save files locally as well. So this will connect to an s 3 bucket and, an Azure storage, Backblaze, and various others.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We are gonna use this later to actually save the summary back, from Deepgram. By default, if you don't say anything, it will be just local file storage, and it'll actually just get dumped here in this in this uploads folder right here in the sidebar. We have a little insights dashboard builder. We used that in yesterday's workshop. And then over here in settings, we have access to flows, which is the automation builder, which is what we're gonna use today.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I think the only other thing we wanna do before we kick off is let me just have a quick think here. The only other thing we wanna do is our public role. So this is this represents, all of the requests that are made that have no permissions that have not authenticated. And I'm just gonna give it the ability to read and write files. In the real, you shouldn't do this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But for the sake of this, it'll be fine. What's the worst that could happen? So this will allow us to read and write files without needing to authenticate with with directors. What else is needed? We need we need the extensions from the marketplace.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So there are 3 extensions we need here. If I type in Deepgram, I built a few. I don't I don't like the spinning wheel. There there it is, Deepgram. So we have the AI transcription operation, and we have the AI text intelligence operation.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We believe in making things nice and small and modular, so we have separated them, and each one's very simple. In reality actually, question. I think in reality, you could do the the intelligence at the same time as the transcription. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. You can send a single request, and you'll basically just enable those parameters, and you'll get both back.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Great. As these are don't know what's going on there. Although, I've had issues with my Internet all day, so I'm gonna go out. I'd rather this was a bit slow than you not being able to hear or see what's going on. So we did the AI transcription, and then we had the AI text intelligence.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we'll just install both of those. So these were released, last month as part of our directors AI bundle of, of operations for our automation builder. And then there's one more that I created just to make our life a bit easier today, and it's this extension here, RSS to JSON. It will allow you to go off and get an RSS feed, and it will return it will, pass it and turn it into a JSON object. And this will be really helpful because we obviously need to pass the RSS feed of a podcast.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we'll go ahead and install that too. There we go. We'll just give it a quick refresh as it is prompting us to do, and we're ready to rock on. So we're gonna create a new flow. Podcast summarizer summarizer summarizer.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Sure. I don't think summarizer is a word, so I don't know why I am. So hooking up on it. And we can trigger this automation in 1 of 5 ways. We can do an event hook.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So an event hook can be triggered whenever or will be triggered whenever something happens in your database. So it could be, a new item is created in the posts collection or a new user is registered or a new file is uploaded. We have, webhooks, which takes an inbound HTTP request, so you can receive data from third party services. In the world of Deepgram, how we actually use it here on DIRECTOR's TV, our on demand shows all have transcripts. Some of our shows are very long, so we use Deepgram's, asynchronous callback mode.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So it goes up and does work and then pings you once it's done. And so that would be a webhook trigger. You can run them based on time, you know, schedules. You can have flows trigger other flows. So if you have complex, you know, use cases, you can kind of bounce portions off into their own modularized automations and then return the data back up.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And finally, manual. And this will add a button, this will add a button to the side of the data studio when you're in collections or item pages, and you can go and trigger it from there. 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This also featured on our quick connect series right here. So it's that same project but over in video form.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So if you're interested in kinda learning more about what's quite a common automation, I think, with Deepgram, you can see how to set that up. Okay. First thing we need to do then is we need to go ahead and get a podcast, like, actually go get, an RSS feed. I have loads of podcasts. I actually agonized over which to pick.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So I picked Darknet Diaries. You heard of Darknet Diaries?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: No. Haven't heard of it.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Fantastic podcast all about cybersecurity. Really, really, really good. I just listened to just listened to this latest episode here, Anom, like, 2 days ago, came out June 4th. It was it was so good. 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There's our item array, and there is the MP 3. Now it does actually say in the docs of this, extension that I built yes yesterday. If ever there's an attribute, you'll note that you may remember it was an enclosure. I can show you.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It was an enclosure tag with an attribute of URL. And somehow I had to map that to a JSON object. So the chosen method was to make it an object and the attributes are just underscored. I think that's valid. So now we wanna dig in and actually get that data.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We wanna get that URL. So we will create a new we will create a new, step here. And this one, I will call, latest, I guess. Latest because we just wanna get the latest episode. This has all the episodes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And we're gonna just run some JavaScript in here. Now the this, kind of, boilerplate here, is it is the zoom level okay?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. It looks okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Cool. Have this data property. And data is a big object and properties in that object include the keys of all of the steps. So I can get the I can go and get the feed step by, you know, going data dot feed, and that's that whole object that was returned.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So if you name the keys, you can more easily pick specific values from all the way up what we call the data chain, and every operation adds a new object to the data chain. So we have data dot feed here. Now I happen to know because I didn't wanna I didn't wanna sync too much time here. I know where the value of the URL is. It's in dot RSS dot channel dot items dot item That's an array and we want the first item.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>That's the value of the episode. Suppose we'll just store that. And now that that episode had a ton of data, how long is it? When was it published? What's the description?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>What's the title? What's the cover art? The m p 3, obviously, and a whole bunch of additional metadata. It was huge. It was a really, really big object, actually.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The ID, the pub date, the link to the, like, web website, the description formatted, the URL, and data about the URL. Some data specifically for iTunes, the author, iTunes summary so much so much. But actually not so much. That's the end of it. I reached the end, but significant.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We don't need all of it. We only need some of it. So we're gonna just stop pulling out some values. So what we'll do is we'll grab the date That feels like a viable thing to to store. We'll turn that into a JavaScript date.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>What was it called? Pub date. Pub date. And I know that we want it in an just in a an ISO string. So that kind of standardizes it.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So I don't think it comes in an ISO string. No. It comes in whatever this archaic thing is. That's the date. We want the title that also fills the digits at episode dot title.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We could grab the description. There are a few variants of this description. Taking a look. Let's take a look what's the difference. This one has HTML tags, p and 2 break tags.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This one does not. So this is the one we want here. The Itunes summary. Itunes colon summary, which means we have to use this syntax to dig in there. And finally, the actual URL, of course, episode dot enclo enclosure_url because it was it was a an attribute.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Okay. Looks legit. Save that. Let's run it again. Nothing.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Great. That's not what we want. What happened here? To ISO string is not a function. Oh, because it said to ISO sting.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>That's a typo. Ring. There it is. The date, the description, the title, the URL. Cool.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Yeah. It's a pretty nice little automation builder here. Now we have the URL. I mean, strictly speaking, we didn't need that step. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We could just crack on, but I like just reducing down that complex data structure into something quite known. So that we called this latest. We'll need that in this next step, which is actually gonna be the AI transcription operation that, that we built and released. So there are some options here. The first thing we need is a Deepgram API key, which you can get from your Deepgram dashboard.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We'll do that together in a moment. You need a full file URL, which we have. It's the it's the m p 3. You can provide a callback URL optionally and then sort of flip over into callback mode, which again stops long hanging, you know, connections, but this will be fine for this. We allow you to enable diarization, which do you know why it's called diarization?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This isn't leaving. I don't know the answer.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. It could be called speaker identification as well, but, yeah, I think the research term first is a diarization. So it basically tells you who's speaking when you have a mono channel, and multiple speakers. If you have multichannel audio, you you don't really need to diarize, because you know each speaker's on a different channel. But, yeah, a lot a lot of people have a single channel, especially with a podcast.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's it's not multichannel.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yes. And, thank you, Ramsey. I'm glad I caught it really quickly, but, yes, there was a missing r in ISO string. So you can optionally enable diarization, and then you can also add keywords. Talk to us about keywords.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Someone who works for a word that sounds like directors, I'm very, very intimately familiar with this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So so keywords allows you to kind of increase the probability that we would, you know, pick up the rectus and direct us. Right? You know, as a single word versus, like, direct us. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So if you put in that keyword with the spelling and then you increase the intensifier, and the intensity is actually it's a exponential scale. So as you go up higher, it gets extremely strong. Yeah, value of 1 or 2 is is pretty normal. If you were to put in a value of a 1,000, nearly every word will start turning into direct us. But that kinda gives you an idea of how you can leverage that feature.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Interestingly, it's not direct to us. It's always directors. Like, I am the director of the film. That's always like if when it's wrong, that's how it gets it wrong.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We don't need to use keywords for this. So first thing we'll need is a Deepgram API key. Here is our director. Here is our Deepgram console. Signed up for an account.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And you can go make a new API key. You can give it a nice name here so we can call this leap week work shop, workshop. You can optionally set an expiration. I will do that. I will expire this after 1 hour.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? Because I don't we won't be going for more than an hour, and then this key will just stop working. You can also, add some tags, but this is the thing that's interesting. You can change the permissions of the key, which is nice. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Do you have any notes about this or just yeah. You can do that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, if if you have certain needs, right, sometimes you might wanna generate keys, like, more API keys with an API key.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Build an admin. Like, if you're if you're creating this as a service, for example, you're using Deepgram in, like, yeah. Cool. That makes sense. You get an API key, which probably shouldn't share, but mine is in an hour and a half, and it has a fixed amount of credit and no credit card.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So the US, we'll pop the Deepgram API key in there. Next thing we want is the file URL. You can add dynamic values using mustache impacts, double squigglies on each side. The last step was called latest and the value was URL. So that will resolve to the full URL that was inside of that enclosure.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And I think we'll leave everything else. I think that's that's the shortest version. I'll call this transcription transcription. Sure. Hit save.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>No. Let's try it out. So now it's taking a little bit longer because it's not just making one HTTP request. We are waiting for for it to happen. Now by default, I happen to know because I built this extension.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We do turn on a couple of features. So I'll wait for this to finish and then we'll talk about those features. Maybe taking a hot minute there. Has it? Oh, oh, there we are.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>There we are. Boom. Look at that. Huge. Right.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Before we look at the data structure that comes back, I will tell you that we are using smart format and we are using the Nova 2 model. So maybe let's talk briefly about each. Should we start with the model?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Mhmm. Yeah. So so the base model is our oldest model. So that was, you know, from kinda 2020 18, 2019 era. It's an extremely performant model, but the accuracy is is a lot lower.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Some customers still opt to use it because it is just so compute efficient. And then we have our enhanced model, which, you know, added a bit more compute to it. But, yeah, our nova 2 model is the most accurate model that we have, and it's, yeah, available now in 36 languages, and we're we're adding more languages every month.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Nice. And that is what we're using here in this, operation. And then what smart format do? I think smart format basically checks a bunch of other boxes for us.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So smart formatting, is actually baked into the model. So the model itself when it's transcribing is is generating the formatting. If you turn that off and you enable, like, punctuation and and numerals and things like that, that will apply post processing formatting, and which tends to lose a little bit of the, the context. Because, you know, some like, the number one isn't always meant to be a number.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? Like, if if I you know, I am the the one and only. You don't want the digit to come in there. Right? So that that's essentially what that's there for.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Fascinating. So we applied smart formats. So we make that we make that available. So you don't have the option to turn those off or change them. That's just what you get with this, with this extension.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Okay. Let's look at what came back there. Big old payload. Now, just because this is a slightly I've gone into the big data structure that Deepgram returns, which, Damian, you've probably spotted that immediately. This is the first alternative is always returned.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So I can just speed speed up our I can speed run us here. So the first thing is this transcript, which yeah? Like you said, it's nice. It's formatted. Interest I didn't know it was baked into the model and that it's not post processing and that's the difference.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I thought it was just a shortcut to checking a few other boxes, but it isn't. It actually does something different.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. And some customers will want digits but not punctuation or punctuation and not digits. So having them split out as well allows them to pick and choose between the the features.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Right. So we have reached the point where this is to Deepgram directs us. This is too big for me to just scroll through and and talk about. So what I'll do is I'll just look at the docs for this specific extension, and we can talk about about it. So this was the AI transcription operation.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This is the data structure that's returned if it was a really short transcript. So we have the transcript. We saw that. We didn't actually manage to scroll to the end of it. Can you talk to us about the other objects that are all the other, properties that are returned?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So the words array is gonna give you the start and end times of each of the words, also the confidence that we have for that word. Like, if you detect a very low confidence word, you know, some people will actually choose to omit it. Right? It could have just been, you know, picked up from a cough or something like that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And, yeah, if it if it's down at, like, 5%, it's usually, probably gonna be wrong. Right? But for the most part, you'll see confidences in the high nineties. We also have the punctuated words, so, you know, you you'll get the word as it was, you know, printed out, without any punctuation or formatting.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: What about that?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: And then what what we apply to\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: They're not the same words. Like, it's a typo. Oh, it's a typo in my readme. It's a typo in my readme. Ignore me.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I'll go and fix that another time.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. You would have seen lowercase h I and no no full stop in that case. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: And then there's also paragraphs, which is which is also interesting. Mhmm.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So we can we can split it up, by paragraphs. If you enable diarization, we'll also split it up by, you know, who who said what as they said. Cool. And you can do utterances as well.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So that will give you kind of logical semantic breaks in in speech as well. Yeah. And if you were to enable diarization in each word, you would get a speaker ID as well. So you would have, like, speaker 0, speaker 1, and, you know, whoever spoke the word.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Lovely. And we see here the transcript is there. It's formatted, but it adds these line breaks in. So, you know, you can kind of print that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We get paragraphs. We get sentences. We get start ends for all of them. So It's really nice and flexible. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I see sentences could work quite nicely for, putting captions on a screen, like a sentence at a time or something like that. Okay. So that's the data that comes back from that. I think for this, all we really care about is this top level transcript, But the rest of it does exist. Now just a reminder, you can do audio intelligence within that single request if you're using the Deepgram API or SDK, but we've chosen to split them into 2 distinct operations so you can just have what you need, and each one can be a little more simple rather than being a kitchen sink of options.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So let's crack on then. Let's go ahead and add the text intelligence right here. So I'll call this analyze, I think. Once again, Deepgram API key. I think I, I can't see it again.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Oh, wait. The it's in the it's in the last one. We'll do that. We'll grab it out of here. There it is.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>There's the raw value, which again will expire by the time this is over. Right. AI text intelligence and lies. Deepgram API key and the text is going to be transcription was the name of that was the key of the last step dot transcript. Now this is a point to and it will be the last operation.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I hate this. As a as a educators, I like, you know, lead educator. I think this lets you foot gum. If you start rewiring your operations, this value is not always the same. That's why I'm personally a big fan of explicit naming of keys and explicit inclusion of keys.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But key sorry. Last always exists. Another one that exists is the trigger, which would give you data from that, from that very first step. So it's just a couple of conveniences there. But we will make this try and go ahead.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Is there any way to see all the available, step values or objects or explore them?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yes. There's a number of ways that debugging flows is an area we know needs improvement. I'm gonna just save this. You can take a look over here. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And you can look through the logs and you can go, right, well, this was for each step, but and it was called latest, but you don't have the key immediately available. You can simply just log them. We have a logging step, which will add an extra operation. You can also just return it in the last step and it will return here. Or rather, I think when you configure the trigger, let's take a look, you can get all data back and that will return the entire object.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So you have options, but no, there isn't a really nice way to do this right now.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: It might be a cool addition. I know when I when I use, like, email, syntax injection, there's, like, a little list that lets me pick from them.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. No. That that makes no sense. And, this was actually the topic of back to Directus TV we go.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Of one of our recent request reviews. What was it? It was the improvements to flows debugging. So we spoke about it for a whole hour, with our community around what they'd like to see based on an open feature request. So maybe that's something we'll see in the not so not too distant future.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Alright. Let's try this. Now we are expecting to wait a moment for this because it's going to transcribe the whole hour, then it's gonna run the text intelligence. So I'll kick it off, but I am expecting to to wait.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: And then are are flows always triggered from an API request, or is there a way\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: to There was there was 5 different triggers. So now we're a little bit deeper. I'll do this again because I think you're building more context around this. So the first is an event hook. So you can say, hey.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Whenever an item is created in this specific collection or these collections, trigger the flow. So you can do event based hooks. You can either do it before the database transaction occurs so you can validate, manipulate the inbound data before it gets committed or perhaps stop it in its tracks, right, and fail out if something that isn't correct, or you can do it after the data has been committed. So that's the event hook. We have the web hook, which we are using for this just for speedy rerunning.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We can run it on a schedule, so you can provide the 6 point cron syntax here and run it up to every minute. You can trigger it based on another flow. So one of the, operations in the list was to run another flow. You can put data in, and it will return data out so you can modularize your your flows a little. And then finally, manual.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And I think the easiest way to look at manual is probably just a quick trip to the docs. The manual flow trigger, you pick a set of collections and it adds this button over here to the sidebar. So this sidebar, it requires you to check 1 or more you 1 or more items and hits and hit the button, or you can do it from within an individual record, an individual item. And it will send the IDs of those items into the flow as part of the trigger. That did take a little while there.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>You can additionally add this confirmation dialogue and collect per invocation values. So this could be useful for things like sending an email. Right? So you type in a message, you hit go, you've maybe picked some users or send a text message with Twilio, press a button, and off it goes. So they're the 5 ways to trigger, to trigger your flow.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But we're just using the webhook so I can just run it just by hitting up and enter here. Mhmm. Let's, see what that big object look like. We have the summary, which is nice. It's a nice length for an hour's worth of footage.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Can you talk to us about the rest? That's the summary, but we've got more.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So the topics, it's it's got a a lot of predetermined topics that the model's capable of picking up. You also have the option to pass custom topics. So if you have a topic that's kind of nuanced, very unusual, you can add that in as well. And that's gonna figure out, like, okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Whereabouts in, you know, this transcript, right, based on, the text in in this case. And whereabouts was it talking about WikiLeaks or fake off or scammer or spyware? And and that's really useful because now you have the ability to actually jump to that position. Right? So you could imagine if you wanted to find, you know, the area that was talking about, WikiLeaks, you could just click a button, and it would jump you to that segment in in the actual transcript.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Exactly. You could build out a search, You're not searching just the raw transcripts. You're you're searching for topics because that's more realistic to people's usage. That's really cool.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This again is quite long. So let's find our way to the to the example I I have written up here. So, yes, we get the topics on a per segment basis. You get the intents. Let's talk about intents.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And can we talk a bit about how intents are different to topics? Because I'm a little fuzzy on it.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So so topics can can be all sorts of things. You're probably gonna have, you know, say, 10 x topics versus intents. An intent is really like if if I'm making a phone call and I want to cancel my plan, you know, or update my address, right, that might be one thing. But I may go off on a tangent and start talking about my holiday in Spain and do you know what I mean?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And that that could be a topic, but the intent of the call really was to, you know, achieve something. And the same can be said about, you know, a video, a podcast. And so, yeah, I'm I'm interested about the intents that actually brought back for that podcast.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Let's take a look. Might have to yeah. I might have to do the mother of all scrolls here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: You could try a control f me.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. I could. Yeah. You think I'd know that using a computer every day. What do we call it?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Intent. Thank you for that. Wow. Okay. Yes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So Explore Samsung Smart TV features. That's funny. Though they were talking about because I just listened to this the other day. Basically, Samsung TVs have this feature built in where you could put it in, like, low low power mode where, like, it looks off, but it's not. And so the yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>If you push mute 182 and then power the TV appears to be off, but it isn't. And then if you basically run spyware on it and then put it in that mode, no one knows. So instead of needing to plant bugs, you could actually just use the Samsung Smart TV, which will record to the TV, and then you just go by and retrieve it later.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: And you can see how useful this intent is. Right? Like, straight away, it got us to something, you know, very interesting. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So there there's definitely gonna be intense. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. That's where discuss Anum's features. That is what happened. Interesting. Okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It might make a little less sense here, but in a call center context in particular Yeah. So with sentiment, and and it's pretty cool. I don't know if you're\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So with sentiment, and and it's pretty cool. I don't I don't know if you have the playground up. There's a good visualization of the sentiment in there.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you scroll up and then you see just at the very top Per month. Okay. Next to summary. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Sentiment. So so you can track the sentiment over time. Right? Because we're giving you, like, you know, sentiment, you know, at each sentence or utterance. And if you scroll down, you can see as the sentiment changes, you know, it goes to see negative negative negative.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So that kinda gives you an idea of, you know, what's happening throughout, you know, the show or or the phone call.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Got it. Got it. But you might only need to know the average. So I think if memory serves me right, there is also I think it is literally called average. Mhmm.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Yeah. An average sentiment as well.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. And and the average is gonna tend towards neutral. Right? Because, you know, the vast majority of of text is is kind of neutral. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's only it's only gonna be parts of the call go negative. So, like, if if you see there's I don't know if you can search for positive, see how many results you get.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: And so\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: I'll say 10 and then negative.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: 69.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. And then neutral. 81. Okay. So so so it looks like it it was kind of 5050 on the on the neutral and negative.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Yeah. Just enough to bring it kind of back to that new Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's just gonna average the sentiment scores, which are between minus 1 and 1, I'm guessing, given that this is minus 0.0.15. Mhmm. Okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we now have a summary, and now it's time to go ahead. And, and that summary was held in the output of that. I think it's called summary dot text. Summary was an object. And now it's time to use, the text to speech, APIs.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And to do that, we are going to build an extension, which I'm really excited about. Now for those watching, this isn't intended to be a play along, so I'm gonna go a little bit faster than I would running a hands on workshop because this is gonna be available tomorrow on director's TV. I'm also gonna turn this into a blog post sometime in the next couple of weeks so you can follow step by step in written form if that's more your thing. So, we're gonna go into our extensions folder here and MPX create direct us extent extend. This always gives me extension Extension.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Direct. Yeah. Sure. Let wait for the latest version, please. And here are all of the extension types.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>You can create custom panels for direct us insights, the dashboard builder, custom interfaces, which are form inputs for the editor, but we are going to create an operation for flows. And I will call this Deepgram TTS, text to speech. I'll just write it in JavaScript and auto install dependencies. And given the speed of other things that have happened on my system during this session, I think we'll just be waiting a hot minute for that. But what we're gonna do here is we're gonna set up this operation, and we are going to use Deepgram's JavaScript SDK, which makes interacting with Aura, the text to speech service, Just a lot just a lot easier.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So while that's scaffolding, let's, oh, it did it. It did it. So I next time next time we wait, we'll take a look at Aura. So we're gonna jump we're gonna jump in here. Right.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Let's take a look inside of our new Deepgram TTS extension at the code. There are 2 files that matter. The first is app dotjs, and this describes all of the configuration. So this, says what is shown on the card here on this kind of overview and what options are presented here and then fed into the into the back end. So the API key and the text and stuff like that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The, App. Js, yeah, will also do things like what icon is shown here, what text and description, stuff like that. And then there is the API JS which runs server side and actually executes executes the, you know, the the operation, then it will be here where we install and use the SDK. So let's\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: that you can that you can build the UI through that code and do all back end process. Lot of other ideas kinda come into mind now that I see it.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. And the on a lot with breakfast in multiple ways. You know? Yesterday, we built out actually, not for those watching on demand. Sorry for kind of crossing streams.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So you probably, you you may have already seen this. If we take a look at Directus and just take a very quick look at yesterday's workshop, another thing you may not consider is I'm just mute that. You may not have considered is, you know, we have this dashboard builder, and you'll be thinking, oh, okay. You know, it's all out displaying displaying insights. You know?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>That could be useful or whatever. But what? Look at that, look at that quality there. I'll click back over here in a minute. Maybe just here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Here. But this panel, you pick a user from a drop down and hit call, and it would use the Twilio voice SDK to actually do a two way phone call from your browser to the target to the user's phone number. So, yeah, really, really flexible. You can very much build a lot in it. Anyway, right.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we're gonna create a custom operation. So first thing we're gonna do here is we are going to change the ID. The ID has to be unique across all operations in your project. So it's quite typical that, you know, people will prefix the name of their extension with their author name. I'm just gonna call this one Deepgram TTS because I doubt there will be another one called that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And that has to be the same in both files. So also here, the ID. We'll call this 1 Deepgram TTS. What are we gonna do for icon? We will use record voice over.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I think it's what the one that I've used in the past for, Deepgram. And then for description, generate text to speech. Well, we don't need to save too much time insights. Just a a little visual thing. Now what we need to do is we're gonna pop in some text.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So actually, I think we'll just leave that as it is, but we are also going to pick the model. So let's actually take this moment to pause. Could you talk to us about the models in Aura?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. In the playground that you you should be able to access, and we we literally just added it the other day. So on the top at the right hand side the very top right hand.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Oh, text to speech. I didn't see that then. Oh, perfect. Yes. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: So you can type in any text you want here, and it will generate it. Yeah. And you can just hit play on one of the voices. Angus at the very top, actually, is my voice. So, yeah, if you ever wanna\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Actually, I listened to it yesterday. That's so funny. So we have 2 here. You know what? Let's just for sake of argument, we'll just pick the top 2, Angus and Arcus.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But they each have this model name, Aura Angus e n, and AURA ARCUS en. So we're going to provide a way to do a drop down and just pick between them. And in theory, you would populate as many as you wish, or you would take away the choice and just pick 1 and not provide this option. But we can do that. So we have this text box in the option.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Let's, go and create a new one. So we will do field. This is what you name it. So I'll name it model. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>That's like the key that we saw. We're gonna give it a visual name. So we'll capitalize that. That is ultimately just going to store a string. And then we get to provide some information in here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>First thing we'll do is just the the width will make it full, which just means I'll go under it. So you can make them half, but whatever. But the more important thing here is the interface or the form input where you can create custom interfaces as we spoke about earlier. And the one we want is called select drop down like so. This interface has some options.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>As you would probably expect, it's the choices. And each choice has a text, and that has a value. And, like I said, we will do 2. So the text for the first one is Angus, and we can see here, Aura Angus e n. Is that what it is?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Yeah. Aura Angus e n, and Arcus was the second one. Aura, Arcus, e n. Nice. Now the only other thing we'll do here is we'll just show it on that card.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This is optional. This is just this is just, you know, UI further to a to a degree, but we will and sorry. It's over here in the in the overview. So we'll also bring in the model, and we will show that on the card as well. You'll see what that does in just a moment.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: And what would be the default if that wasn't populated? Or is it just always It would just\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: be an empty card. It would just be an Oh, it would be an empty card. Just like this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: If the if the model wasn't selected.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Good question. I think it might default to the first. Did I? You could probably set a default or handle the default over on the server side. If not selected, pick this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I think kinda similar approach to most drop downs that you could build. So let's let's run this. Let's go npm run dev. And that's going to build our extension, watch for changes, and rebuild it whenever there's a change. Over in our first terminal here, we see here extensions reloaded.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>If I hit save, it will rebuild the extension. Directors will see that I've rebuilt the that I've that the that the extension has been rebuilt. Will it?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: You might need to make a change rather than\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. That's what I was that's what I was waiting on. Interesting. I might just quickly restart it and see if it needed just a one time restart. And if that continues, then whatever will might just have to kick it up the bum.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So that's rerunning now. So I'll just save that. There you go. Extensions reloaded. Okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Just needed one quick one quick kick up the bum. So let's, let's see what happens now. So we will add to this new extension on the end. There it is. Deepgram TTS.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>There's the icon we pick. That's the text. That's the title. We pass in the text, which we know is annual annualize dot summary Mhmm. Dot x, I think.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So analyze dot summary.text. Sure. And we pick the model, and there they are. So we'll pick your voice. That's quite funny.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I didn't know. I didn't know that. That's pretty cool. And we'll hit save. So and you see there the model is shown on the front, and that's the text input that we put in.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we hit save. When this, operation runs, the API side will run. So the first thing we'll do is we will go ahead and, so go ahead and just pull the model in as well. So that'll just be the the e n, you know, Angus or aura Angus e n. Let's let's do this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I'm really excited, actually. Right. We are gonna use the Deepgram SDK. So npm install at deepgram/sdk. Good.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Good. Good. And we'll go ahead and, initialize this. It's funny when I was a developer advocate at Deepgram, I did this all the time. So import, create, client from not that, from Deepgram SDK, and then you create an instance, Deepgram equals create client, and the API key have to go in here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Yeah. Obviously, I Eric, why did I even bother hitting save? We need to pass in the API key here. We We don't really wanna hard code it in our extension. So instead, what we're gonna do is we're gonna add it here to our Docker compose file, which will bring it into the environment variables.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So mostly because I've already forgotten it, let's grab that key again. Let's pop it in here. We'll call it deep oh, Deepgram API key. There it is. We do need to restart our Docker container whenever we update the Docker Compose file because it just reads that once it load.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And straightaway in here, process dotm.deepgramapi key. One moment. These are fine. These are not errors. These are little warnings, not a problem.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's just, some of some of the way that the, yeah, some of the the build of the Deepgram SDK, but it's not a bother at all. They are just warnings. And now it's time to actually build the hands, build out the the handler. So, what happens? We press the button, it goes in.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Now what we're gonna want to do here is ultimately we want to save a file to our director's project. And we expose a bunch of services to your project, which you can use to interact directly with these kind of directors primitives. Now, the first thing we wanna do here is we wanna go ahead and just add in here a second variable called context. And inside of here, con, const. There we go.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Const. We want services and we also want get schema, which we'll need to, initialize the service. Services is a list of all the services. The user service, the item service, the permission service, the role service. We only care about the files service.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we'll just pull that out just just to make it easier. And then we'll go ahead and we will initialize a files service. A new file service. And in here, you have to pass in the schema of your project, and that thankfully is just returned in get schema. And I did just catch in the little tool tip there that that needs to be, awaited, and therefore, this needs to be async.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Not there. That's an object. So that's us creating the file service. That means we now have an interface with which we can create a file in just a moment. Next, we're gonna go ahead and use the Deepgram SDK to generate a a stream of audio, and this was lovely by the way.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I was speaking to to Luke, one of the DX engineers at at Deepgram recently about this. And the fact that this SDK uses the native interface makes this next bit really, really nice. So what we wanna do here is create I'll call it response for now, I guess. Or e g response maybe. Deepgram response.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>What we can do here is just use the initialized client here with our environment variable dot speak dot request. First first argument here is the source, so we can just pass in the text. So you would yeah. This is how you do it, but a shorthand because the name of the of the, property and the value is the same, you can just shorthand it there. And secondly, any options that we want to use.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I might just create options as its own just to keep it really clear. I might just do this above here and then feed it in. So what do we wanna do here? I think all we really wanna do is we wanna pick the model. The same thing, we can use the shorthand.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So that'll be, Angus. And we're going to tell it what file format we want it to return. If memory serves me right, you can return quite a lot of audio formats from Deepgram. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. We we support quite a few different formats. Yeah. If you wanna play it back, typically m p 3 or WAV, if you wanna stream it, like, to Twilio and things like that, you'd probably do, like, raw audio linear 16 or Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: That's cool. We'll do this because in just a moment, we are gonna need to know the file format. So I want to explicitly ask it for a files format. So we know with confidence it's gonna be an MP 3. Then finally oh, hang on.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Let's pass this in. DG options. There we go. And finally is the file stream. I might call it dgstream, just again to be very explicit.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Now gonna await response dot get stream Stream. That's it. That is a DG response. That is now just a live stream of audio, which is fantastic. Because it is a file stream, we can pass it straight into the file service to upload it.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Now before we continue, we are also going to need a file name. Right? We we need to tell direct us when we create a file, what we want the file name to be at least as when you download it. And I think what we might wanna do is actually collect that from the user upfront. Like, hey.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>What filename do you want this to be? So let's go through the motions here of adding a new item here and just a new text box. Right? And we'll call this one file name, I guess. Field name type.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I think that's all we need. File name. I And you\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: need to change the name. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Nope. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But I mean, that's that's that will stop us getting confused, but strictly speaking, you you don't need to. So we have the file name. Great. We're not gonna bother showing it on the overview, so it can just stay here. And then over on the API side, we just wanna pull that pull that in here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>File name. Yeah. Cool. And just to make this consistent, I might just move this, and we can call this, like, request or something like that. Just, again, kind of handle these the same way.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So now we have the file name that we'll pass in. Let's save this. Let's, just refresh this. Make sure all of that works. And let the white screen stay for just a moment longer than I would have liked it to.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Look, there's a problem here, which tells me something went wrong. But I don't know what. Look. They've all gone a bit they've all gone a bit funny, which means I have caused a problem. Love that for me.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Might just zoom out one step for the sake of scanning a larger surface of code file name. I could have broken at any of those points. We haven't refreshed this in a while. Thought there. And these are, let let me scan this because they were just, these are just warnings there.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Oh, no. No. No. That's still the warning. Interesting.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Interesting. Let's look over here again. We passed in the the create client. Let's just save ourselves just a moment of effort and just figure out if it's in here, first of all. It was.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Okay. That at least helped somewhat. Let's. Was it maybe the fact that you I've called it request? It's request meant no.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>That's fine. Okay. I mean, this is a top tier debugging. This. Okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's something down here. Okay. I mean, okay. WAVs. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So there's nothing wrong. Yeah. Let me just make sure the extension reloads. Fine. No bloody problem.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Nothing happened here. Right. Let's open this one up, and now there's a file name. Right? So I suppose we can put in a dynamic value here and call it and, and call it latest, which was the latest episode dot I think we called it title.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I'll save it, and then I'll just look back. Latest. Yeah. We called it title. That'll be the title.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>That's a dynamic value, which is nice. So that gets passed in as a file name. We get the stream, and, all we need to do now is upload it to directives. And the way we do that is let's do the same thing again. We'll call it, directives options.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Just so again be really explicit. We need 3 things, I think, are mandatory here or it won't work. The first thing is the file name downloads. Whenever you download the file from director status, the file name that it will have, We've already established, so that's gonna be file name. Oh, dotmp 3, I suppose.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I'm not sure if that's needed, but I'm gonna do it anyway. It needs a MIME type. We just call it type here. We already know that's an MP 3. I know the standard format for MIME types is this, audio slash.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And again, that's why we specifically requested a file format. It doesn't really matter which one it was and where is it going. This matters because you can connect more than one asset storage to Directus. By default, it will use local storage, which is just this up which is just this kind of link to this uploads folder, but you can connect it to an s 3 bucket, and Azure Blob storage and and many more. So we're just telling it, hey.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This is where we want storage. Should that\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: should that meme type be MPEG rather than MP 3?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: No. I think it's this. I think it's I think if if I caught my mind back, I think that's right. Don't know. We'll find out in a couple of minutes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So that'll be, that'll be our first point of debugging. And then the final thing we'll do, although it is optional, is we will actually set the title of the new of the new file. So this is the, like, visual labeled title where the other one is what happens when you download it. That isn't strictly needed, but we'll we'll do that. Then what we'll do is we'll call it directors file, I guess.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The new file is we will use our file service. We will upload 1, and the first value is going to be a stream. Unfortunately, Deepgram just returns a stream, so we can dump that in there. And the second one is the directors options. What is returned from upload 1 is the new primary key of the new file that's being created.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we will just return the rectus file. That's the whole thing. That's the whole operation. Before I good before I get all excited and describe everything that's happened, let's make sure it works because it it might not. Right.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Nothing seems to have gone wrong here. We have a file name set, so let's trigger this one more time, and I am expecting to have to wait now because we are doing all of these steps back to back. I'm expecting to have to wait maybe 30 ish, 40 ish seconds. But we'll see. It's an hour of audio.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So while that's happening, let's recap what's happening. We're going and grabbing the RSS feed and converting it to JSON with this custom extension you can download for free in the marketplace. We just, you know, traverse that that big objects that that's returned to just get the latest item. We didn't end up doing anything with the date, actually. Now I think about it or the description.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We transcribe it using the AI transcription endpoint and then run text intelligence. Both of these are Deepgram to receive the summary. And then this custom built extension we just built does text to speech. You pass in some text, You pick a model from the drop down. We just pick the first two out the list, Arcus and Angus, and you give it the file name for the original file for the new file.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And as you see here, what was returned was a string, which means there wasn't an error, which means there is our 42 second summary. Let me listen to your voice. I don't think this will come through. It it's you. It's so you.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>That's so funny. So do people do people at Deepgram just get proposition to, like, get their voices up?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: 6 of the 12 voices are Deepgrammers, and then the 6 are voice actors.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: It's really funny. But there's your little summary. There's your summary. That's sounds freaking cool. So let's talk about the code, and then we'll talk about what more you could do with this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? So we grab the data that was actually, you know, provided by the operation. We grab the file service and the get schema function, and we initialize a new file service that allows us to interact directly with the director's files collection. These three lines is all that's needed, and strictly speaking, you know, this object could go in here. So two lines is all that's needed to request a text to speech, a text to speech operation, I suppose, from Deepgram.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>That's all that's needed and it returns a stream of data. Then we, you know, configure all of our options for our new file we're about to create, and we upload the file by just providing the stream directly, providing the options, and that returns the primary key, which we return. That's the whole thing. Do you have any questions, in the chat? Who have been remarkably quiet, by the way.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I hope you've enjoyed. Damien, do you have any questions, thoughts?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm I'm just amazed at how easy that was. Like, less than 30 times code, and it's all hooked up and it works. And a lot a lot of that code is verbose code as well. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like it's Absolutely. Trying to be expanded. So, absolutely really easy. And, yeah, being able to pass that stream straight into the file\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: was very useful. It was very, very useful indeed. So what more could you do with this? Well, the obvious kind of first step is that load more data is returned from Deepgram. So you can do more with that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>You know, you why we could save the description directly to the file if we wanted. We can provide you know, we can maybe tag it with topics. We could do whatever whatever we want here. It's completely up to us. You could also run further automations either as part of the same flow or a separate flow.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's all good that, you know, a new podcast has been transcribed, but do we know? Maybe we send an alert. We send, you know, an email or a notification to the user, which if we take a look here, there is a send email operation right here. So you could tell them that there's a new summary and maybe directly link them to the director's files m p 3, Because everything in directors, if we take a look at this new file here, it has this ID, and you can just go to local host 8055/assets/that. And there is our m p 3.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So you could link them directly to it if you fancied. Another thing is that, you know, this was a slightly conceited example in that we have to manually run it. But you could run a crop. You could use a chrome here. You could use a chrome, grab the feed and say, hey.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Has there been anything new in the last 24 hours since I last ran? Okay. Now go and transcribe the latest episode. You know? So you could run this on a schedule and make it like a daily roll up of new shows, new episodes that you could listen to.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: One other idea is, like, obviously, this was audio to begin with, so we we kinda compressed it, and we create a summary that became audio. But maybe there is, like, you know, a cool blog that you follow, but you may not have the chance to read the blog, but you'd like to listen to it. Right? You know, maybe in the car. So you could take a blog, turn it into a, like, you know, an audiobook, very easily, or you could even, you know, summarize it.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? And and play it out. I had a pretty interesting idea of, like, a a real time radio station that's basically, you know, tailored to exactly what you like. Right? So you could have a, you know, maybe archive research papers being fed in, and then it's giving you kinda the updates in real time.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Oh, pretend I didn't see that. I remember I'm not sure if it will still be live. Yeah. Here it is. This is a post I wrote.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The date's wrong because I I worked here at that point. But what this did, it used my JSON. It literally literally live transcribed a radio station. I could edit in BBC Radio 4. Mhmm.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And it would live transcribe it, which was super cool. Super, super cool.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So now you can even do the reverse.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty, pretty cool. There's so much scope for this, you know, based on more complex triggers, you know, more logic in the middle.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like I said, you know, this could be a cron instead of a trigger. So many options. But I think that is just about our time, and we have 2 more minutes. So, yeah, thank you so much for indulging me and and and and getting involved in this and sharing your insights. I learned actually quite a lot, during that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Especially the smart format being part of the model itself. Fascinating. Not not what I thought.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. Thanks for having me. This this is super interesting, and I'm kind of amazed that you're able to build all this from scratch, you know, in in the length of time that we're chatting here. And, yeah, it really just shows what's possible with Directus. So I might be I might be building a few little, thing that flows with it myself.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: That's how we get you. That's how we get you. And you can run it locally. Right? And it's the full fat thing.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>You know, it's not like a a less good version. Like, it is the full thing. It's what we host. I will say that I need to add it to this, I think it's still in a PR, actually. I don't think we merged it in yet.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But the RSS to JSON operation, I will show it because it is also really, like, light. I just didn't wanna have to do it now because it kinda wasn't the point. We're taking the URL as you saw, and all we do here is that all the code for this operation is here. That's it. That's the whole thing, the whole operation.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We import a library called XML parser. We go off and get the RSS feed. And assuming everything was good, we just pass it, the attribute name prefix underscore, and then we returned we returned the past data. So that whole operation, that first one was the code. We could have built it live.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I just didn't think it was gonna be that interesting. Thank you so much folks in the chat, for your kind words. I'm glad we made your life easier. I like lots of claps. Yes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>There are lots of use cases, both for Directus and Deepgram and the 2 together, and I completely echo Jonathan's sentiment. Welcome to the director's community. We're very happy to have you. Great. And with that, we are at time.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So have a wonderful rest of your week, everyone. Have a wonderful rest of your, week, Damien. And tomorrow, just a reminder that there is one more event this week week and then there's this community networking social. It is using the one and only platform I have ever done networking on that doesn't absolutely suck. So if you're interested in meeting other people who are interested or use or involved in Directus in some way, shape, or form, drop by.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's at if you go to leapweek.dev, it will be, localized to your time zone. But here in Berlin, in Central European, it is at 4 PM. So, yeah, hopefully, we'll see you at that tomorrow. Damien, anything else you wanna share just before we hit end?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: No. Thanks very much everybody for joining. And, yeah, really interesting possibilities. This is open all.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Excellent. Right. With that, have a good rest of your day, nerds. Bye for now.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Bye bye.\u003C/p>","Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Damien, you are still muted, but we are we are here. Hello. I'm Kevin. I'm Damien. Yeah. Nice to meet you. Yeah. For the next hour and a half, we're gonna be trying to get things to work maybe successfully. We'll see. We'll talk about the project in just a moment, but I actually thought some more thorough introductions might be in order. Damien, would you like to tell us who you are and who you work for? Yeah. I'm Damien Murphy, applied engineer here at Deepgram. So, you know, working with customers, building, you know, real time low latency voice spots and transcribing their audio. Yeah. Excellent. And I am very, very, very fond of Deepgram, so I'm really excited and thankful that you're joining us for the next little bit. My name's Kevin. I work on the director's core team, and in this workshop or rather, this workshop is part of, Leap Week. Hopefully, you are already aware, but Leap Week is our week of announcements where we announce new features and also run a series of other events to celebrate directors and our community. We're starting to near the end of the week now, but don't worry. There's still lots more to come. Tomorrow, we are doing a community networking social. And right now, right here, we're gonna be building some cool stuff with directors and Deepgram. Maybe if we take a moment to talk about the project, that'd be a cool way to to stop. So podcasts. I love podcasts. Podcasts are actually all standards. Podcasts are just an RSS feed that contains some metadata and links to episodes. And in this workshop, we're going to string together using Director's automate and flows, our kind of visual automation, tool, a, you know, semi complex automation where we are going to go grab a RSS feed of a podcast, go grab the latest episode, send it off to Deepgram's transcription service. So maybe before we I jump straight into the whole project, maybe we break down each part. Could you tell us a little bit about, Deepgram's transcription service? Yeah. So we're able to process, you know, audio, video, pretty much any format, and turn that into, text. Right? So we'll basically transcribe every bit of speech that's spoken and then give you back a word level and time stamp level, you know, what was spoken. We also have multiple other APIs, which we'll get into a little bit later. But, I mean, we can we can rock on now. So we're going to go and transcribe these podcasts. I listened to one the other day that was like an hour long. Then we're gonna use this audio intelligence. Tell us about this one. Yeah. So we have the ability to pass the transcript once it's transcribed through our audio intelligence features. So this can do things like sentiment analysis, summarization, intent detection, and topic detection. And this can be really useful for, you know, pulling out that valuable metadata, and it's all time stamped as well. So you can even, you know, build an overview of the podcast, using those, audio intelligence features. Cool. And then you can also understand it on, like, a segment basis as well. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So each part of the the audio that comes through will pick up topics as they happen. So we can do major topics and, minor topics as well. Awesome. Oh, that's really interesting. Justine, a question here in chat. And, yes, please do use the chat. I will answer the question while encouraging you to use the chat. Will this demo be available on demand? Yes. Like everything at Leap Week, it is all recorded. It will be available on DIRECTUS TV tomorrow. In fact, the workshop from yesterday with Twilio is already up in our brand new show called Enter the Workshop as you will be able to watch this on demand, of course. So, but by being here live, you have access to the chat, so take advantage of it. I'll be monitoring it. You can ask either of us questions about Directus or Deepgram or what we're doing, and we'll be more than happy to answer in that. So we're gonna transcribe a latest podcast episode. We are going to use the audio intelligence, features that, Deepgram offers. I'm gonna struggle because Directus in Deepgram both start with these. So sometimes I might do this. I feel myself maybe doing it already. And then finally, we will use, one of the newer Deepgram products, Text to Speech. Tell us about this one. Yeah. So we recently released, our text to speech. It's one of the the lowest latency text to speeches on the market, with high quality voices. So you can get a very low latency text to speech generated at a very low price point as well. Just to help me understand, because latency only, I suppose, matters well, it doesn't only matter, but it matters more when you're doing live, like, real time stuff. So you can use this real time as well? Yeah. Absolutely. And that's where we see a lot of the demand in the market is for, you know, building real time voice box with sub second latency. So with this text to speech, you can get about 250 milliseconds of of, latency for time to first byte. Excellent. We won't be using it real time today because obviously podcast episodes are already static hosted files, but that's, I suppose, where the latency matters. So you can do, like, true conversational voice bots, I suppose. Cool. So we're gonna do all of that. Just to summarize how this is going to work, we are going to first build a flow that will take in a podcast URL. We will grab the latest podcast episode from that podcast feed. We will send that off to Deepgram to receive a transcript, then we're gonna send it off for, text intelligence, so text to text API that Deepgram offers. We'll talk a little bit about why they're separate when they don't have to be. You can do those 2 steps together, but it will become clear as we go through the workshop. Then armed with a summary of that podcast, we are going to send it back off to Deepgram to generate a short summary, I suppose, in the audio bite, which we will then save back to the director's project so you can go and listen to it at your leisure. Any questions in the chat? Any thoughts, Damian, before we kick off? Yeah. If anybody wants to sign up for Deepgram, we give $200 in free credits as well. So, you'll be able to transcribe about 750 hours of of audio for for free, essentially. Yeah. It's really, really cool. Really nice way to get started. And indeed, that is what we will be doing today. Okay. I think that means we are ready to kind of, jump in and get started. And the very first thing we are going to do here is we are gonna set up a directors project running locally now. I will give you a very quick summary of what Directus is in case you're coming from the Deepgram world and you've not heard of Directus before. So Directus is a really cool back end that you can use as a developer to build your applications. You connect it to a database. We provide developer tooling and this really beautiful web application which you can use to interact with that data. And it's, suitable for handing to non developers as well, which is not very typical of back end, back end tooling. So we're gonna spin this up, and then we are specifically going to use Directus Automate, which is part of this application in order to build this kind of multistep flow, something that looks a bit like this, except each one will take on one of the steps we described in our project. This project will use some, extensions that we built and published to the marketplace, which is available in all directors projects. We can go and do that together. And then that very final step where we create a new audio file and save it back to our directors project, we're gonna build that extension together because it doesn't currently exist. So that's that's the kind of rundown of how this is going to shake out. So with that in mind, I have this empty directory here on my local machine. It's just this empty directory called live. Let's move into it here, and we're gonna spin up a director's project. The first thing we're gonna do is create a docker compose dot yml file. And I do happen to have one here. This is the docker compose file for spinning up directives locally with a SQLite database. There isn't too much to talk about here. We will use the latest version of directives that has been published on Docker Hub. We have 3 volumes. So these are, directories that exist inside of the Docker container that we are going to map to local directories. And you'll see exactly what these do in about a minute. We need some environment variables, a key and a secret. You should replace both with random values. For the sake of this workshop, I think replace with random value is random enough, so we'll leave that be. The initial admin email and password, which, of course, you can go change. The database client and being SQLite is just a file, So we're just telling it where that file will live. We have WebSockets enabled so you could do, like, real time subscriptions. It's part of my kind of default snippet that I have. We're not gonna use that today. And then we're also turning on extensions auto reload, which is gonna be really important for the developer experience of building our extension at the very end of this work shop. So with all of that done, you can just run docker compose up. No. Oh, did I hit save? I did not. There we go. And so it's now gonna go ahead and, spin that up. And you'll notice immediately an upload and extensions and a database folder. So they are the 3 volumes that are inside of the Docker container, but also mapped to a local volume. It did a whole bunch of, like, first time, you know, seeding, and then we have directives running right now on local host 8055 with my admin, email, and password that we set in the Docker Compose. That's it. That's how I was having set up directives. This is the full fat version of directives running here. It's the same version we host in Directus Cloud, and we can with that jump straight in. Damian, I might just give you a quick tour of it if that makes sense. We have a database. Yeah. We have a database. It's that SQL like database. In here, we can create tables in that database and we can query them. We can interact with the data. Great. We also have users that we can create. We have a whole auth service. So immediately, we have this admin user that you can invite other users. Users in turn can have various permissions, which grant them access to do different actions on collection. So create, read, update, delete, and share. We also connect to your asset storage, or you can save files locally as well. So this will connect to an s 3 bucket and, an Azure storage, Backblaze, and various others. We are gonna use this later to actually save the summary back, from Deepgram. By default, if you don't say anything, it will be just local file storage, and it'll actually just get dumped here in this in this uploads folder right here in the sidebar. We have a little insights dashboard builder. We used that in yesterday's workshop. And then over here in settings, we have access to flows, which is the automation builder, which is what we're gonna use today. I think the only other thing we wanna do before we kick off is let me just have a quick think here. The only other thing we wanna do is our public role. So this is this represents, all of the requests that are made that have no permissions that have not authenticated. And I'm just gonna give it the ability to read and write files. In the real, you shouldn't do this. But for the sake of this, it'll be fine. What's the worst that could happen? So this will allow us to read and write files without needing to authenticate with with directors. What else is needed? We need we need the extensions from the marketplace. So there are 3 extensions we need here. If I type in Deepgram, I built a few. I don't I don't like the spinning wheel. There there it is, Deepgram. So we have the AI transcription operation, and we have the AI text intelligence operation. We believe in making things nice and small and modular, so we have separated them, and each one's very simple. In reality actually, question. I think in reality, you could do the the intelligence at the same time as the transcription. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You can send a single request, and you'll basically just enable those parameters, and you'll get both back. Great. As these are don't know what's going on there. Although, I've had issues with my Internet all day, so I'm gonna go out. I'd rather this was a bit slow than you not being able to hear or see what's going on. So we did the AI transcription, and then we had the AI text intelligence. So we'll just install both of those. So these were released, last month as part of our directors AI bundle of, of operations for our automation builder. And then there's one more that I created just to make our life a bit easier today, and it's this extension here, RSS to JSON. It will allow you to go off and get an RSS feed, and it will return it will, pass it and turn it into a JSON object. And this will be really helpful because we obviously need to pass the RSS feed of a podcast. So we'll go ahead and install that too. There we go. We'll just give it a quick refresh as it is prompting us to do, and we're ready to rock on. So we're gonna create a new flow. Podcast summarizer summarizer summarizer. Sure. I don't think summarizer is a word, so I don't know why I am. So hooking up on it. And we can trigger this automation in 1 of 5 ways. We can do an event hook. So an event hook can be triggered whenever or will be triggered whenever something happens in your database. So it could be, a new item is created in the posts collection or a new user is registered or a new file is uploaded. We have, webhooks, which takes an inbound HTTP request, so you can receive data from third party services. In the world of Deepgram, how we actually use it here on DIRECTOR's TV, our on demand shows all have transcripts. Some of our shows are very long, so we use Deepgram's, asynchronous callback mode. So it goes up and does work and then pings you once it's done. And so that would be a webhook trigger. You can run them based on time, you know, schedules. You can have flows trigger other flows. So if you have complex, you know, use cases, you can kind of bounce portions off into their own modularized automations and then return the data back up. And finally, manual. And this will add a button, this will add a button to the side of the data studio when you're in collections or item pages, and you can go and trigger it from there. We're gonna use a webhook because I just want the ability to call it really quickly and just making a quick call request is probably gonna be the easiest way to do it. I don't care about any of this because it really is just a quick trigger. So if I hit this URL in fact, let's do that. I open a new, let me just build these 2 terminals. If I open a new terminal and just call this URL and refresh here, we'll see it's been triggered once in the logs. So I think that's gonna be the quickest way of just constantly running it as we go to to test it. Okay. Any questions so far? Anyone in the chat? I I raised through this. I got us to this point super, super quick. We We scheduled an hour and a half in for this, and I think it won't take long at all. So unless questions are asked. So, feel feel free. Not that you have to, although you need questions. A question for you though, Damien. With Deepgram's callback mode, can you give some use cases for when that's useful? Because it's a really good, you know, demonstration, I think, of the fact that you can do you can trigger flows based on webhooks. Yeah. A lot of customers use it, because it allows their server to, you know, get back to doing other tasks. Right? So rather than waiting for the response, the more features you enable, the, you know, the longer the request will take. So, you know, adding summarization and topic detection, entity detection, you know, it it can go up into, you know, the 30, 42nd range, and as the audio gets longer as well. But yeah. Like, by default, if you've if you're just transcribing, you know, you can transcribe an hour long podcast in probably, you know, 10 seconds. Right? So, one of the other cool features is you can pass a URL to, like, an s three Booker. So you can tell us, hey, you know, when you're transcribing it, instead of me sending you the file, go pull it from an s 3 Booker. And you can even tell us to put it back into an s 3 bucket as well, which is pretty cool. Yeah. We have actually, over in our docs, I've written a post before a deep gram post right here. Right. But that makes sense. It's to stop you having, like, hanging long connections open. Right. And that that makes total sense. So this, what this does, is it listens for any file upload. It verifies that it's an audio file, and then it will send the URL of your of your file directly to to Deepgram authenticated with your token. It has a transcript returned, and then you can save that straight back to the file. So it's placed right next to the file, which is really cool. It's a really straightforward automation here. And this also featured on, let me find it. This also featured on our quick connect series right here. So it's that same project but over in video form. So if you're interested in kinda learning more about what's quite a common automation, I think, with Deepgram, you can see how to set that up. Okay. First thing we need to do then is we need to go ahead and get a podcast, like, actually go get, an RSS feed. I have loads of podcasts. I actually agonized over which to pick. So I picked Darknet Diaries. You heard of Darknet Diaries? No. Haven't heard of it. Fantastic podcast all about cybersecurity. Really, really, really good. I just listened to just listened to this latest episode here, Anom, like, 2 days ago, came out June 4th. It was it was so good. It was not what I expected. But a 146 episodes of Darknet Diaries and any I'm gonna say true podcast because I think Spotify has started to screw with the definition of a podcast is just an RSS feed, and they all follow exactly the same format. If it's not if it doesn't have an open RSS feed, it isn't actually a podcast. It's an appropriation of the term podcast. But the podcast is this kind of XML document, this RSS feed, and they all have, you know, some metadata that, you know, will be shown in your podcast acts. And then they have a number of items here. So this item here that I'm highlighting is a single episode. It's that one we just saw, Anum. And you'll notice here in the enclosure, there is this attribute called URL, and that contains a direct m p 3 link. And that's how podcasts will work. And that's really handy because with, Deepgram, you can send a a binary file or you can send a URL. And podcasts have this URL just hanging out there. So our job is get the URL. I can take this whole feed URL and use our brand new, I built it yesterday, RSS to JSON, RSS to JSON operation here, and I'm gonna call it feed. The fact I call it feed will become clear in their own. Why does this key matter when it has a name? Why does this key matter? We'll talk about that in just a moment. We'll stick the URL in there, Save it. Hit it again. And I think we configured this flow to actually return the data from the last step. So we are expecting to basically see it here. Yeah. There it is. The whole RSS feed, but turned to JSON. If we refresh here, we can also see it in our logs. There it is. So there it is. That's pretty cool. There's our item. Where is it? Here we are. There's our item array, and there is the MP 3. Now it does actually say in the docs of this, extension that I built yes yesterday. If ever there's an attribute, you'll note that you may remember it was an enclosure. I can show you. It was an enclosure tag with an attribute of URL. And somehow I had to map that to a JSON object. So the chosen method was to make it an object and the attributes are just underscored. I think that's valid. So now we wanna dig in and actually get that data. We wanna get that URL. So we will create a new we will create a new, step here. And this one, I will call, latest, I guess. Latest because we just wanna get the latest episode. This has all the episodes. And we're gonna just run some JavaScript in here. Now the this, kind of, boilerplate here, is it is the zoom level okay? Yeah. It looks okay. Yeah. Cool. Have this data property. And data is a big object and properties in that object include the keys of all of the steps. So I can get the I can go and get the feed step by, you know, going data dot feed, and that's that whole object that was returned. So if you name the keys, you can more easily pick specific values from all the way up what we call the data chain, and every operation adds a new object to the data chain. So we have data dot feed here. Now I happen to know because I didn't wanna I didn't wanna sync too much time here. I know where the value of the URL is. It's in dot RSS dot channel dot items dot item That's an array and we want the first item. That's the value of the episode. Suppose we'll just store that. And now that that episode had a ton of data, how long is it? When was it published? What's the description? What's the title? What's the cover art? The m p 3, obviously, and a whole bunch of additional metadata. It was huge. It was a really, really big object, actually. The ID, the pub date, the link to the, like, web website, the description formatted, the URL, and data about the URL. Some data specifically for iTunes, the author, iTunes summary so much so much. But actually not so much. That's the end of it. I reached the end, but significant. We don't need all of it. We only need some of it. So we're gonna just stop pulling out some values. So what we'll do is we'll grab the date That feels like a viable thing to to store. We'll turn that into a JavaScript date. What was it called? Pub date. Pub date. And I know that we want it in an just in a an ISO string. So that kind of standardizes it. So I don't think it comes in an ISO string. No. It comes in whatever this archaic thing is. That's the date. We want the title that also fills the digits at episode dot title. We could grab the description. There are a few variants of this description. Taking a look. Let's take a look what's the difference. This one has HTML tags, p and 2 break tags. This one does not. So this is the one we want here. The Itunes summary. Itunes colon summary, which means we have to use this syntax to dig in there. And finally, the actual URL, of course, episode dot enclo enclosure_url because it was it was a an attribute. Okay. Looks legit. Save that. Let's run it again. Nothing. Great. That's not what we want. What happened here? To ISO string is not a function. Oh, because it said to ISO sting. That's a typo. Ring. There it is. The date, the description, the title, the URL. Cool. Yeah. It's a pretty nice little automation builder here. Now we have the URL. I mean, strictly speaking, we didn't need that step. Right? We could just crack on, but I like just reducing down that complex data structure into something quite known. So that we called this latest. We'll need that in this next step, which is actually gonna be the AI transcription operation that, that we built and released. So there are some options here. The first thing we need is a Deepgram API key, which you can get from your Deepgram dashboard. We'll do that together in a moment. You need a full file URL, which we have. It's the it's the m p 3. You can provide a callback URL optionally and then sort of flip over into callback mode, which again stops long hanging, you know, connections, but this will be fine for this. We allow you to enable diarization, which do you know why it's called diarization? This isn't leaving. I don't know the answer. Yeah. It could be called speaker identification as well, but, yeah, I think the research term first is a diarization. So it basically tells you who's speaking when you have a mono channel, and multiple speakers. If you have multichannel audio, you you don't really need to diarize, because you know each speaker's on a different channel. But, yeah, a lot a lot of people have a single channel, especially with a podcast. It's it's not multichannel. Yes. And, thank you, Ramsey. I'm glad I caught it really quickly, but, yes, there was a missing r in ISO string. So you can optionally enable diarization, and then you can also add keywords. Talk to us about keywords. Someone who works for a word that sounds like directors, I'm very, very intimately familiar with this. Yeah. So so keywords allows you to kind of increase the probability that we would, you know, pick up the rectus and direct us. Right? You know, as a single word versus, like, direct us. Right? So if you put in that keyword with the spelling and then you increase the intensifier, and the intensity is actually it's a exponential scale. So as you go up higher, it gets extremely strong. Yeah, value of 1 or 2 is is pretty normal. If you were to put in a value of a 1,000, nearly every word will start turning into direct us. But that kinda gives you an idea of how you can leverage that feature. Yeah. Interestingly, it's not direct to us. It's always directors. Like, I am the director of the film. That's always like if when it's wrong, that's how it gets it wrong. We don't need to use keywords for this. So first thing we'll need is a Deepgram API key. Here is our director. Here is our Deepgram console. Signed up for an account. And you can go make a new API key. You can give it a nice name here so we can call this leap week work shop, workshop. You can optionally set an expiration. I will do that. I will expire this after 1 hour. Right? Because I don't we won't be going for more than an hour, and then this key will just stop working. You can also, add some tags, but this is the thing that's interesting. You can change the permissions of the key, which is nice. Yeah. Do you have any notes about this or just yeah. You can do that. Yeah. Like, if if you have certain needs, right, sometimes you might wanna generate keys, like, more API keys with an API key. Build an admin. Like, if you're if you're creating this as a service, for example, you're using Deepgram in, like, yeah. Cool. That makes sense. You get an API key, which probably shouldn't share, but mine is in an hour and a half, and it has a fixed amount of credit and no credit card. So the US, we'll pop the Deepgram API key in there. Next thing we want is the file URL. You can add dynamic values using mustache impacts, double squigglies on each side. The last step was called latest and the value was URL. So that will resolve to the full URL that was inside of that enclosure. And I think we'll leave everything else. I think that's that's the shortest version. I'll call this transcription transcription. Sure. Hit save. No. Let's try it out. So now it's taking a little bit longer because it's not just making one HTTP request. We are waiting for for it to happen. Now by default, I happen to know because I built this extension. We do turn on a couple of features. So I'll wait for this to finish and then we'll talk about those features. Maybe taking a hot minute there. Has it? Oh, oh, there we are. There we are. Boom. Look at that. Huge. Right. Before we look at the data structure that comes back, I will tell you that we are using smart format and we are using the Nova 2 model. So maybe let's talk briefly about each. Should we start with the model? Mhmm. Yeah. So so the base model is our oldest model. So that was, you know, from kinda 2020 18, 2019 era. It's an extremely performant model, but the accuracy is is a lot lower. Some customers still opt to use it because it is just so compute efficient. And then we have our enhanced model, which, you know, added a bit more compute to it. But, yeah, our nova 2 model is the most accurate model that we have, and it's, yeah, available now in 36 languages, and we're we're adding more languages every month. Nice. And that is what we're using here in this, operation. And then what smart format do? I think smart format basically checks a bunch of other boxes for us. Yeah. So smart formatting, is actually baked into the model. So the model itself when it's transcribing is is generating the formatting. If you turn that off and you enable, like, punctuation and and numerals and things like that, that will apply post processing formatting, and which tends to lose a little bit of the, the context. Because, you know, some like, the number one isn't always meant to be a number. Right? Like, if if I you know, I am the the one and only. You don't want the digit to come in there. Right? So that that's essentially what that's there for. Fascinating. So we applied smart formats. So we make that we make that available. So you don't have the option to turn those off or change them. That's just what you get with this, with this extension. Okay. Let's look at what came back there. Big old payload. Now, just because this is a slightly I've gone into the big data structure that Deepgram returns, which, Damian, you've probably spotted that immediately. This is the first alternative is always returned. So I can just speed speed up our I can speed run us here. So the first thing is this transcript, which yeah? Like you said, it's nice. It's formatted. Interest I didn't know it was baked into the model and that it's not post processing and that's the difference. I thought it was just a shortcut to checking a few other boxes, but it isn't. It actually does something different. Yeah. And some customers will want digits but not punctuation or punctuation and not digits. So having them split out as well allows them to pick and choose between the the features. Right. So we have reached the point where this is to Deepgram directs us. This is too big for me to just scroll through and and talk about. So what I'll do is I'll just look at the docs for this specific extension, and we can talk about about it. So this was the AI transcription operation. This is the data structure that's returned if it was a really short transcript. So we have the transcript. We saw that. We didn't actually manage to scroll to the end of it. Can you talk to us about the other objects that are all the other, properties that are returned? Yeah. So the words array is gonna give you the start and end times of each of the words, also the confidence that we have for that word. Like, if you detect a very low confidence word, you know, some people will actually choose to omit it. Right? It could have just been, you know, picked up from a cough or something like that. And, yeah, if it if it's down at, like, 5%, it's usually, probably gonna be wrong. Right? But for the most part, you'll see confidences in the high nineties. We also have the punctuated words, so, you know, you you'll get the word as it was, you know, printed out, without any punctuation or formatting. What about that? And then what what we apply to They're not the same words. Like, it's a typo. Oh, it's a typo in my readme. It's a typo in my readme. Ignore me. I'll go and fix that another time. Yeah. You would have seen lowercase h I and no no full stop in that case. Yeah. And then there's also paragraphs, which is which is also interesting. Mhmm. Yeah. So we can we can split it up, by paragraphs. If you enable diarization, we'll also split it up by, you know, who who said what as they said. Cool. And you can do utterances as well. So that will give you kind of logical semantic breaks in in speech as well. Yeah. And if you were to enable diarization in each word, you would get a speaker ID as well. So you would have, like, speaker 0, speaker 1, and, you know, whoever spoke the word. Yeah. Lovely. And we see here the transcript is there. It's formatted, but it adds these line breaks in. So, you know, you can kind of print that. We get paragraphs. We get sentences. We get start ends for all of them. So It's really nice and flexible. Yeah. I see sentences could work quite nicely for, putting captions on a screen, like a sentence at a time or something like that. Okay. So that's the data that comes back from that. I think for this, all we really care about is this top level transcript, But the rest of it does exist. Now just a reminder, you can do audio intelligence within that single request if you're using the Deepgram API or SDK, but we've chosen to split them into 2 distinct operations so you can just have what you need, and each one can be a little more simple rather than being a kitchen sink of options. So let's crack on then. Let's go ahead and add the text intelligence right here. So I'll call this analyze, I think. Once again, Deepgram API key. I think I, I can't see it again. Oh, wait. The it's in the it's in the last one. We'll do that. We'll grab it out of here. There it is. There's the raw value, which again will expire by the time this is over. Right. AI text intelligence and lies. Deepgram API key and the text is going to be transcription was the name of that was the key of the last step dot transcript. Now this is a point to and it will be the last operation. I hate this. As a as a educators, I like, you know, lead educator. I think this lets you foot gum. If you start rewiring your operations, this value is not always the same. That's why I'm personally a big fan of explicit naming of keys and explicit inclusion of keys. But key sorry. Last always exists. Another one that exists is the trigger, which would give you data from that, from that very first step. So it's just a couple of conveniences there. But we will make this try and go ahead. Is there any way to see all the available, step values or objects or explore them? Yes. There's a number of ways that debugging flows is an area we know needs improvement. I'm gonna just save this. You can take a look over here. Right? And you can look through the logs and you can go, right, well, this was for each step, but and it was called latest, but you don't have the key immediately available. You can simply just log them. We have a logging step, which will add an extra operation. You can also just return it in the last step and it will return here. Or rather, I think when you configure the trigger, let's take a look, you can get all data back and that will return the entire object. So you have options, but no, there isn't a really nice way to do this right now. It might be a cool addition. I know when I when I use, like, email, syntax injection, there's, like, a little list that lets me pick from them. Yeah. Yeah. No. That that makes no sense. And, this was actually the topic of back to Directus TV we go. Of one of our recent request reviews. What was it? It was the improvements to flows debugging. So we spoke about it for a whole hour, with our community around what they'd like to see based on an open feature request. So maybe that's something we'll see in the not so not too distant future. Alright. Let's try this. Now we are expecting to wait a moment for this because it's going to transcribe the whole hour, then it's gonna run the text intelligence. So I'll kick it off, but I am expecting to to wait. And then are are flows always triggered from an API request, or is there a way to There was there was 5 different triggers. So now we're a little bit deeper. I'll do this again because I think you're building more context around this. So the first is an event hook. So you can say, hey. Whenever an item is created in this specific collection or these collections, trigger the flow. So you can do event based hooks. You can either do it before the database transaction occurs so you can validate, manipulate the inbound data before it gets committed or perhaps stop it in its tracks, right, and fail out if something that isn't correct, or you can do it after the data has been committed. So that's the event hook. We have the web hook, which we are using for this just for speedy rerunning. We can run it on a schedule, so you can provide the 6 point cron syntax here and run it up to every minute. You can trigger it based on another flow. So one of the, operations in the list was to run another flow. You can put data in, and it will return data out so you can modularize your your flows a little. And then finally, manual. And I think the easiest way to look at manual is probably just a quick trip to the docs. The manual flow trigger, you pick a set of collections and it adds this button over here to the sidebar. So this sidebar, it requires you to check 1 or more you 1 or more items and hits and hit the button, or you can do it from within an individual record, an individual item. And it will send the IDs of those items into the flow as part of the trigger. That did take a little while there. You can additionally add this confirmation dialogue and collect per invocation values. So this could be useful for things like sending an email. Right? So you type in a message, you hit go, you've maybe picked some users or send a text message with Twilio, press a button, and off it goes. So they're the 5 ways to trigger, to trigger your flow. But we're just using the webhook so I can just run it just by hitting up and enter here. Mhmm. Let's, see what that big object look like. We have the summary, which is nice. It's a nice length for an hour's worth of footage. Can you talk to us about the rest? That's the summary, but we've got more. Yeah. So the topics, it's it's got a a lot of predetermined topics that the model's capable of picking up. You also have the option to pass custom topics. So if you have a topic that's kind of nuanced, very unusual, you can add that in as well. And that's gonna figure out, like, okay. Whereabouts in, you know, this transcript, right, based on, the text in in this case. And whereabouts was it talking about WikiLeaks or fake off or scammer or spyware? And and that's really useful because now you have the ability to actually jump to that position. Right? So you could imagine if you wanted to find, you know, the area that was talking about, WikiLeaks, you could just click a button, and it would jump you to that segment in in the actual transcript. Yeah. Exactly. You could build out a search, You're not searching just the raw transcripts. You're you're searching for topics because that's more realistic to people's usage. That's really cool. This again is quite long. So let's find our way to the to the example I I have written up here. So, yes, we get the topics on a per segment basis. You get the intents. Let's talk about intents. And can we talk a bit about how intents are different to topics? Because I'm a little fuzzy on it. Yeah. So so topics can can be all sorts of things. You're probably gonna have, you know, say, 10 x topics versus intents. An intent is really like if if I'm making a phone call and I want to cancel my plan, you know, or update my address, right, that might be one thing. But I may go off on a tangent and start talking about my holiday in Spain and do you know what I mean? And that that could be a topic, but the intent of the call really was to, you know, achieve something. And the same can be said about, you know, a video, a podcast. And so, yeah, I'm I'm interested about the intents that actually brought back for that podcast. Let's take a look. Might have to yeah. I might have to do the mother of all scrolls here. You could try a control f me. Yeah. I could. Yeah. You think I'd know that using a computer every day. What do we call it? Intent. Thank you for that. Wow. Okay. Yes. So Explore Samsung Smart TV features. That's funny. Though they were talking about because I just listened to this the other day. Basically, Samsung TVs have this feature built in where you could put it in, like, low low power mode where, like, it looks off, but it's not. And so the yeah. If you push mute 182 and then power the TV appears to be off, but it isn't. And then if you basically run spyware on it and then put it in that mode, no one knows. So instead of needing to plant bugs, you could actually just use the Samsung Smart TV, which will record to the TV, and then you just go by and retrieve it later. And you can see how useful this intent is. Right? Like, straight away, it got us to something, you know, very interesting. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So there there's definitely gonna be intense. Yeah. Yeah. That's where discuss Anum's features. That is what happened. Interesting. Okay. It might make a little less sense here, but in a call center context in particular Yeah. So with sentiment, and and it's pretty cool. I don't know if you're Yeah. So with sentiment, and and it's pretty cool. I don't I don't know if you have the playground up. There's a good visualization of the sentiment in there. Yes. Yeah. So if you scroll up and then you see just at the very top Per month. Okay. Next to summary. Yeah. Sentiment. So so you can track the sentiment over time. Right? Because we're giving you, like, you know, sentiment, you know, at each sentence or utterance. And if you scroll down, you can see as the sentiment changes, you know, it goes to see negative negative negative. So that kinda gives you an idea of, you know, what's happening throughout, you know, the show or or the phone call. Got it. Got it. But you might only need to know the average. So I think if memory serves me right, there is also I think it is literally called average. Mhmm. Yeah. An average sentiment as well. Yeah. And and the average is gonna tend towards neutral. Right? Because, you know, the vast majority of of text is is kind of neutral. Right? It's only it's only gonna be parts of the call go negative. So, like, if if you see there's I don't know if you can search for positive, see how many results you get. And so I'll say 10 and then negative. 69. Yeah. And then neutral. 81. Okay. So so so it looks like it it was kind of 5050 on the on the neutral and negative. Yeah. Just enough to bring it kind of back to that new Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's just gonna average the sentiment scores, which are between minus 1 and 1, I'm guessing, given that this is minus 0.0.15. Mhmm. Okay. So we now have a summary, and now it's time to go ahead. And, and that summary was held in the output of that. I think it's called summary dot text. Summary was an object. And now it's time to use, the text to speech, APIs. And to do that, we are going to build an extension, which I'm really excited about. Now for those watching, this isn't intended to be a play along, so I'm gonna go a little bit faster than I would running a hands on workshop because this is gonna be available tomorrow on director's TV. I'm also gonna turn this into a blog post sometime in the next couple of weeks so you can follow step by step in written form if that's more your thing. So, we're gonna go into our extensions folder here and MPX create direct us extent extend. This always gives me extension Extension. Direct. Yeah. Sure. Let wait for the latest version, please. And here are all of the extension types. You can create custom panels for direct us insights, the dashboard builder, custom interfaces, which are form inputs for the editor, but we are going to create an operation for flows. And I will call this Deepgram TTS, text to speech. I'll just write it in JavaScript and auto install dependencies. And given the speed of other things that have happened on my system during this session, I think we'll just be waiting a hot minute for that. But what we're gonna do here is we're gonna set up this operation, and we are going to use Deepgram's JavaScript SDK, which makes interacting with Aura, the text to speech service, Just a lot just a lot easier. So while that's scaffolding, let's, oh, it did it. It did it. So I next time next time we wait, we'll take a look at Aura. So we're gonna jump we're gonna jump in here. Right. Let's take a look inside of our new Deepgram TTS extension at the code. There are 2 files that matter. The first is app dotjs, and this describes all of the configuration. So this, says what is shown on the card here on this kind of overview and what options are presented here and then fed into the into the back end. So the API key and the text and stuff like that. The, App. Js, yeah, will also do things like what icon is shown here, what text and description, stuff like that. And then there is the API JS which runs server side and actually executes executes the, you know, the the operation, then it will be here where we install and use the SDK. So let's that you can that you can build the UI through that code and do all back end process. Lot of other ideas kinda come into mind now that I see it. Yeah. And the on a lot with breakfast in multiple ways. You know? Yesterday, we built out actually, not for those watching on demand. Sorry for kind of crossing streams. So you probably, you you may have already seen this. If we take a look at Directus and just take a very quick look at yesterday's workshop, another thing you may not consider is I'm just mute that. You may not have considered is, you know, we have this dashboard builder, and you'll be thinking, oh, okay. You know, it's all out displaying displaying insights. You know? That could be useful or whatever. But what? Look at that, look at that quality there. I'll click back over here in a minute. Maybe just here. Here. But this panel, you pick a user from a drop down and hit call, and it would use the Twilio voice SDK to actually do a two way phone call from your browser to the target to the user's phone number. So, yeah, really, really flexible. You can very much build a lot in it. Anyway, right. So we're gonna create a custom operation. So first thing we're gonna do here is we are going to change the ID. The ID has to be unique across all operations in your project. So it's quite typical that, you know, people will prefix the name of their extension with their author name. I'm just gonna call this one Deepgram TTS because I doubt there will be another one called that. And that has to be the same in both files. So also here, the ID. We'll call this 1 Deepgram TTS. What are we gonna do for icon? We will use record voice over. I think it's what the one that I've used in the past for, Deepgram. And then for description, generate text to speech. Well, we don't need to save too much time insights. Just a a little visual thing. Now what we need to do is we're gonna pop in some text. So actually, I think we'll just leave that as it is, but we are also going to pick the model. So let's actually take this moment to pause. Could you talk to us about the models in Aura? Yeah. In the playground that you you should be able to access, and we we literally just added it the other day. So on the top at the right hand side the very top right hand. Oh, text to speech. I didn't see that then. Oh, perfect. Yes. Yeah. So you can type in any text you want here, and it will generate it. Yeah. And you can just hit play on one of the voices. Angus at the very top, actually, is my voice. So, yeah, if you ever wanna Actually, I listened to it yesterday. That's so funny. So we have 2 here. You know what? Let's just for sake of argument, we'll just pick the top 2, Angus and Arcus. But they each have this model name, Aura Angus e n, and AURA ARCUS en. So we're going to provide a way to do a drop down and just pick between them. And in theory, you would populate as many as you wish, or you would take away the choice and just pick 1 and not provide this option. But we can do that. So we have this text box in the option. Let's, go and create a new one. So we will do field. This is what you name it. So I'll name it model. Right? That's like the key that we saw. We're gonna give it a visual name. So we'll capitalize that. That is ultimately just going to store a string. And then we get to provide some information in here. First thing we'll do is just the the width will make it full, which just means I'll go under it. So you can make them half, but whatever. But the more important thing here is the interface or the form input where you can create custom interfaces as we spoke about earlier. And the one we want is called select drop down like so. This interface has some options. As you would probably expect, it's the choices. And each choice has a text, and that has a value. And, like I said, we will do 2. So the text for the first one is Angus, and we can see here, Aura Angus e n. Is that what it is? Yeah. Aura Angus e n, and Arcus was the second one. Aura, Arcus, e n. Nice. Now the only other thing we'll do here is we'll just show it on that card. This is optional. This is just this is just, you know, UI further to a to a degree, but we will and sorry. It's over here in the in the overview. So we'll also bring in the model, and we will show that on the card as well. You'll see what that does in just a moment. And what would be the default if that wasn't populated? Or is it just always It would just be an empty card. It would just be an Oh, it would be an empty card. Just like this. If the if the model wasn't selected. Good question. I think it might default to the first. Did I? You could probably set a default or handle the default over on the server side. If not selected, pick this. I think kinda similar approach to most drop downs that you could build. So let's let's run this. Let's go npm run dev. And that's going to build our extension, watch for changes, and rebuild it whenever there's a change. Over in our first terminal here, we see here extensions reloaded. If I hit save, it will rebuild the extension. Directors will see that I've rebuilt the that I've that the that the extension has been rebuilt. Will it? You might need to make a change rather than Yeah. That's what I was that's what I was waiting on. Interesting. I might just quickly restart it and see if it needed just a one time restart. And if that continues, then whatever will might just have to kick it up the bum. So that's rerunning now. So I'll just save that. There you go. Extensions reloaded. Okay. Just needed one quick one quick kick up the bum. So let's, let's see what happens now. So we will add to this new extension on the end. There it is. Deepgram TTS. There's the icon we pick. That's the text. That's the title. We pass in the text, which we know is annual annualize dot summary Mhmm. Dot x, I think. So analyze dot summary.text. Sure. And we pick the model, and there they are. So we'll pick your voice. That's quite funny. I didn't know. I didn't know that. That's pretty cool. And we'll hit save. So and you see there the model is shown on the front, and that's the text input that we put in. So we hit save. When this, operation runs, the API side will run. So the first thing we'll do is we will go ahead and, so go ahead and just pull the model in as well. So that'll just be the the e n, you know, Angus or aura Angus e n. Let's let's do this. I'm really excited, actually. Right. We are gonna use the Deepgram SDK. So npm install at deepgram/sdk. Good. Good. Good. And we'll go ahead and, initialize this. It's funny when I was a developer advocate at Deepgram, I did this all the time. So import, create, client from not that, from Deepgram SDK, and then you create an instance, Deepgram equals create client, and the API key have to go in here. Yeah. Obviously, I Eric, why did I even bother hitting save? We need to pass in the API key here. We We don't really wanna hard code it in our extension. So instead, what we're gonna do is we're gonna add it here to our Docker compose file, which will bring it into the environment variables. So mostly because I've already forgotten it, let's grab that key again. Let's pop it in here. We'll call it deep oh, Deepgram API key. There it is. We do need to restart our Docker container whenever we update the Docker Compose file because it just reads that once it load. And straightaway in here, process dotm.deepgramapi key. One moment. These are fine. These are not errors. These are little warnings, not a problem. It's just, some of some of the way that the, yeah, some of the the build of the Deepgram SDK, but it's not a bother at all. They are just warnings. And now it's time to actually build the hands, build out the the handler. So, what happens? We press the button, it goes in. Now what we're gonna want to do here is ultimately we want to save a file to our director's project. And we expose a bunch of services to your project, which you can use to interact directly with these kind of directors primitives. Now, the first thing we wanna do here is we wanna go ahead and just add in here a second variable called context. And inside of here, con, const. There we go. Const. We want services and we also want get schema, which we'll need to, initialize the service. Services is a list of all the services. The user service, the item service, the permission service, the role service. We only care about the files service. So we'll just pull that out just just to make it easier. And then we'll go ahead and we will initialize a files service. A new file service. And in here, you have to pass in the schema of your project, and that thankfully is just returned in get schema. And I did just catch in the little tool tip there that that needs to be, awaited, and therefore, this needs to be async. Not there. That's an object. So that's us creating the file service. That means we now have an interface with which we can create a file in just a moment. Next, we're gonna go ahead and use the Deepgram SDK to generate a a stream of audio, and this was lovely by the way. I was speaking to to Luke, one of the DX engineers at at Deepgram recently about this. And the fact that this SDK uses the native interface makes this next bit really, really nice. So what we wanna do here is create I'll call it response for now, I guess. Or e g response maybe. Deepgram response. What we can do here is just use the initialized client here with our environment variable dot speak dot request. First first argument here is the source, so we can just pass in the text. So you would yeah. This is how you do it, but a shorthand because the name of the of the, property and the value is the same, you can just shorthand it there. And secondly, any options that we want to use. I might just create options as its own just to keep it really clear. I might just do this above here and then feed it in. So what do we wanna do here? I think all we really wanna do is we wanna pick the model. The same thing, we can use the shorthand. So that'll be, Angus. And we're going to tell it what file format we want it to return. If memory serves me right, you can return quite a lot of audio formats from Deepgram. Right? Yeah. We we support quite a few different formats. Yeah. If you wanna play it back, typically m p 3 or WAV, if you wanna stream it, like, to Twilio and things like that, you'd probably do, like, raw audio linear 16 or Yeah. That's cool. We'll do this because in just a moment, we are gonna need to know the file format. So I want to explicitly ask it for a files format. So we know with confidence it's gonna be an MP 3. Then finally oh, hang on. Let's pass this in. DG options. There we go. And finally is the file stream. I might call it dgstream, just again to be very explicit. Now gonna await response dot get stream Stream. That's it. That is a DG response. That is now just a live stream of audio, which is fantastic. Because it is a file stream, we can pass it straight into the file service to upload it. Now before we continue, we are also going to need a file name. Right? We we need to tell direct us when we create a file, what we want the file name to be at least as when you download it. And I think what we might wanna do is actually collect that from the user upfront. Like, hey. What filename do you want this to be? So let's go through the motions here of adding a new item here and just a new text box. Right? And we'll call this one file name, I guess. Field name type. I think that's all we need. File name. I And you need to change the name. Right? Nope. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. But I mean, that's that's that will stop us getting confused, but strictly speaking, you you don't need to. So we have the file name. Great. We're not gonna bother showing it on the overview, so it can just stay here. And then over on the API side, we just wanna pull that pull that in here. File name. Yeah. Cool. And just to make this consistent, I might just move this, and we can call this, like, request or something like that. Just, again, kind of handle these the same way. So now we have the file name that we'll pass in. Let's save this. Let's, just refresh this. Make sure all of that works. And let the white screen stay for just a moment longer than I would have liked it to. Look, there's a problem here, which tells me something went wrong. But I don't know what. Look. They've all gone a bit they've all gone a bit funny, which means I have caused a problem. Love that for me. Might just zoom out one step for the sake of scanning a larger surface of code file name. I could have broken at any of those points. We haven't refreshed this in a while. Thought there. And these are, let let me scan this because they were just, these are just warnings there. Oh, no. No. No. That's still the warning. Interesting. Interesting. Let's look over here again. We passed in the the create client. Let's just save ourselves just a moment of effort and just figure out if it's in here, first of all. It was. Okay. That at least helped somewhat. Let's. Was it maybe the fact that you I've called it request? It's request meant no. That's fine. Okay. I mean, this is a top tier debugging. This. Okay. It's something down here. Okay. I mean, okay. WAVs. Yeah. So there's nothing wrong. Yeah. Let me just make sure the extension reloads. Fine. No bloody problem. Nothing happened here. Right. Let's open this one up, and now there's a file name. Right? So I suppose we can put in a dynamic value here and call it and, and call it latest, which was the latest episode dot I think we called it title. I'll save it, and then I'll just look back. Latest. Yeah. We called it title. That'll be the title. That's a dynamic value, which is nice. So that gets passed in as a file name. We get the stream, and, all we need to do now is upload it to directives. And the way we do that is let's do the same thing again. We'll call it, directives options. Just so again be really explicit. We need 3 things, I think, are mandatory here or it won't work. The first thing is the file name downloads. Whenever you download the file from director status, the file name that it will have, We've already established, so that's gonna be file name. Oh, dotmp 3, I suppose. I'm not sure if that's needed, but I'm gonna do it anyway. It needs a MIME type. We just call it type here. We already know that's an MP 3. I know the standard format for MIME types is this, audio slash. And again, that's why we specifically requested a file format. It doesn't really matter which one it was and where is it going. This matters because you can connect more than one asset storage to Directus. By default, it will use local storage, which is just this up which is just this kind of link to this uploads folder, but you can connect it to an s 3 bucket, and Azure Blob storage and and many more. So we're just telling it, hey. This is where we want storage. Should that should that meme type be MPEG rather than MP 3? No. I think it's this. I think it's I think if if I caught my mind back, I think that's right. Don't know. We'll find out in a couple of minutes. So that'll be, that'll be our first point of debugging. And then the final thing we'll do, although it is optional, is we will actually set the title of the new of the new file. So this is the, like, visual labeled title where the other one is what happens when you download it. That isn't strictly needed, but we'll we'll do that. Then what we'll do is we'll call it directors file, I guess. The new file is we will use our file service. We will upload 1, and the first value is going to be a stream. Unfortunately, Deepgram just returns a stream, so we can dump that in there. And the second one is the directors options. What is returned from upload 1 is the new primary key of the new file that's being created. So we will just return the rectus file. That's the whole thing. That's the whole operation. Before I good before I get all excited and describe everything that's happened, let's make sure it works because it it might not. Right. Nothing seems to have gone wrong here. We have a file name set, so let's trigger this one more time, and I am expecting to have to wait now because we are doing all of these steps back to back. I'm expecting to have to wait maybe 30 ish, 40 ish seconds. But we'll see. It's an hour of audio. So while that's happening, let's recap what's happening. We're going and grabbing the RSS feed and converting it to JSON with this custom extension you can download for free in the marketplace. We just, you know, traverse that that big objects that that's returned to just get the latest item. We didn't end up doing anything with the date, actually. Now I think about it or the description. We transcribe it using the AI transcription endpoint and then run text intelligence. Both of these are Deepgram to receive the summary. And then this custom built extension we just built does text to speech. You pass in some text, You pick a model from the drop down. We just pick the first two out the list, Arcus and Angus, and you give it the file name for the original file for the new file. And as you see here, what was returned was a string, which means there wasn't an error, which means there is our 42 second summary. Let me listen to your voice. I don't think this will come through. It it's you. It's so you. That's so funny. So do people do people at Deepgram just get proposition to, like, get their voices up? 6 of the 12 voices are Deepgrammers, and then the 6 are voice actors. It's really funny. But there's your little summary. There's your summary. That's sounds freaking cool. So let's talk about the code, and then we'll talk about what more you could do with this. Right? So we grab the data that was actually, you know, provided by the operation. We grab the file service and the get schema function, and we initialize a new file service that allows us to interact directly with the director's files collection. These three lines is all that's needed, and strictly speaking, you know, this object could go in here. So two lines is all that's needed to request a text to speech, a text to speech operation, I suppose, from Deepgram. That's all that's needed and it returns a stream of data. Then we, you know, configure all of our options for our new file we're about to create, and we upload the file by just providing the stream directly, providing the options, and that returns the primary key, which we return. That's the whole thing. Do you have any questions, in the chat? Who have been remarkably quiet, by the way. I hope you've enjoyed. Damien, do you have any questions, thoughts? Yeah. I'm I'm just amazed at how easy that was. Like, less than 30 times code, and it's all hooked up and it works. And a lot a lot of that code is verbose code as well. Right? Like it's Absolutely. Trying to be expanded. So, absolutely really easy. And, yeah, being able to pass that stream straight into the file was very useful. It was very, very useful indeed. So what more could you do with this? Well, the obvious kind of first step is that load more data is returned from Deepgram. So you can do more with that. You know, you why we could save the description directly to the file if we wanted. We can provide you know, we can maybe tag it with topics. We could do whatever whatever we want here. It's completely up to us. You could also run further automations either as part of the same flow or a separate flow. It's all good that, you know, a new podcast has been transcribed, but do we know? Maybe we send an alert. We send, you know, an email or a notification to the user, which if we take a look here, there is a send email operation right here. So you could tell them that there's a new summary and maybe directly link them to the director's files m p 3, Because everything in directors, if we take a look at this new file here, it has this ID, and you can just go to local host 8055/assets/that. And there is our m p 3. So you could link them directly to it if you fancied. Another thing is that, you know, this was a slightly conceited example in that we have to manually run it. But you could run a crop. You could use a chrome here. You could use a chrome, grab the feed and say, hey. Has there been anything new in the last 24 hours since I last ran? Okay. Now go and transcribe the latest episode. You know? So you could run this on a schedule and make it like a daily roll up of new shows, new episodes that you could listen to. One other idea is, like, obviously, this was audio to begin with, so we we kinda compressed it, and we create a summary that became audio. But maybe there is, like, you know, a cool blog that you follow, but you may not have the chance to read the blog, but you'd like to listen to it. Right? You know, maybe in the car. So you could take a blog, turn it into a, like, you know, an audiobook, very easily, or you could even, you know, summarize it. Right? And and play it out. I had a pretty interesting idea of, like, a a real time radio station that's basically, you know, tailored to exactly what you like. Right? So you could have a, you know, maybe archive research papers being fed in, and then it's giving you kinda the updates in real time. Oh, pretend I didn't see that. I remember I'm not sure if it will still be live. Yeah. Here it is. This is a post I wrote. The date's wrong because I I worked here at that point. But what this did, it used my JSON. It literally literally live transcribed a radio station. I could edit in BBC Radio 4. Mhmm. And it would live transcribe it, which was super cool. Super, super cool. Yeah. So now you can even do the reverse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty, pretty cool. There's so much scope for this, you know, based on more complex triggers, you know, more logic in the middle. Like I said, you know, this could be a cron instead of a trigger. So many options. But I think that is just about our time, and we have 2 more minutes. So, yeah, thank you so much for indulging me and and and and getting involved in this and sharing your insights. I learned actually quite a lot, during that. Especially the smart format being part of the model itself. Fascinating. Not not what I thought. Yeah. Thanks for having me. This this is super interesting, and I'm kind of amazed that you're able to build all this from scratch, you know, in in the length of time that we're chatting here. And, yeah, it really just shows what's possible with Directus. So I might be I might be building a few little, thing that flows with it myself. That's how we get you. That's how we get you. And you can run it locally. Right? And it's the full fat thing. You know, it's not like a a less good version. Like, it is the full thing. It's what we host. I will say that I need to add it to this, I think it's still in a PR, actually. I don't think we merged it in yet. But the RSS to JSON operation, I will show it because it is also really, like, light. I just didn't wanna have to do it now because it kinda wasn't the point. We're taking the URL as you saw, and all we do here is that all the code for this operation is here. That's it. That's the whole thing, the whole operation. We import a library called XML parser. We go off and get the RSS feed. And assuming everything was good, we just pass it, the attribute name prefix underscore, and then we returned we returned the past data. So that whole operation, that first one was the code. We could have built it live. I just didn't think it was gonna be that interesting. Thank you so much folks in the chat, for your kind words. I'm glad we made your life easier. I like lots of claps. Yes. There are lots of use cases, both for Directus and Deepgram and the 2 together, and I completely echo Jonathan's sentiment. Welcome to the director's community. We're very happy to have you. Great. And with that, we are at time. So have a wonderful rest of your week, everyone. Have a wonderful rest of your, week, Damien. And tomorrow, just a reminder that there is one more event this week week and then there's this community networking social. It is using the one and only platform I have ever done networking on that doesn't absolutely suck. So if you're interested in meeting other people who are interested or use or involved in Directus in some way, shape, or form, drop by. It's at if you go to leapweek.dev, it will be, localized to your time zone. But here in Berlin, in Central European, it is at 4 PM. So, yeah, hopefully, we'll see you at that tomorrow. Damien, anything else you wanna share just before we hit end? No. Thanks very much everybody for joining. And, yeah, really interesting possibilities. This is open all. Excellent. Right. With that, have a good rest of your day, nerds. Bye for now. 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Alright. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Super excited to kick off this webinar. It's been a long time in the making for me. I have been knee deep in AB testing over the last couple weeks, so super excited. We are going to be covering how to build AB testing inside your CMS with Posthog and Directus. As everybody trickles in, if you are in the chat, let us know where you are from.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Hop in the chat. Let us know. Awesome. I am Brian Gillespie from Directus. I see a few of you in the chat already know me.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We also have Yurai from Posthog. Yurai, nice to have you.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Nice to meet you. I'm Yorai. I live in Amsterdam, Netherlands, and I've been at Posthog for about a year and a half. And for the last year or so, I've been, working hard, on our AB testing tool, which I'm hoping to, demo you a bit today.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yes. I could I I'm excited because I'm gonna learn a bit on this one as well. Obviously, I've done a lot of the technical implementation for not just our own use case at Directus, but, for this amazing bonus that we got for everyone at the conclusion of this. But, I, you know, I I haven't messed around with all of the the the, like, the metrics and, like, the testing and it just like, all of the config inside post hoc is is tremendously powerful. So I looking to, I guess, forward to seeing what, you know, how that is cooked up on your end.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Alright. Let's, let's cover the agenda, and then we'll kinda give a brief overview of, both direct us and post hoc just because I I saw some questions in the sign up of the people that weren't familiar with either one. So this is obviously the awkward introduction phase. Hi. Okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I see everybody. Canada, Tampa, Florida, Texas. Amazing. Nashville. Next, we're going to kick it over to Yurai where they'll cover he'll cover, basically, a demo of post hoc and how you set up experiments, how you run AB testing, what's a feature flag, what's not, what you should be thinking about as you're testing.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And then we're going to, basically do a live jam sesh of how to connect Directus and Posthog using this, the starter kit that we've created. And we'll open this up for q and a at the end of this. And I'll show you guys how to get this amazing bonus with, the working source code, fingers crossed. Right? So you don't have to invest the time and headache that I have invested over the last couple weeks.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But with that, Yirai, maybe you want to talk a little bit about post hoc for those who are unfamiliar with the tool.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Sure. I guess it'll be easier if I share my screen right away. Yeah. Go for it. Let me do that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Alright. Well, so post hoc, started as, as a product analytics platform, but we've really evolved into kind of, like, an all in one solution which allows you to build great products. So, besides product analytics, we have today more tools such as session replay, feature flags, surveys, you know, data warehouse, and, of course, experiments, which we'll talk about today. So experiments, basically allow you to, test, like, variations on your website, test different changes, and see if those changes lead to some kind of improvements in the behavior of your users, which is then, of course, visible in the metrics that you are tracking. So the way it works is that you you use post hoc's product or feature called feature flags.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And feature flags basically assign different variations of your website to your users. And usually, by default, you will be testing two variations, on your website. The variations will be normally called control and test. And let's say user a will get the variation control, user b gets the variation test. They will both see something different on your website, and then, you know, PulseHawk will track the behavior of your users on the website by capturing events.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And then we aggregate those events on our site, and we basically calculate results for you, which tell you whether a particular variation is better than some other variation. So like I said, every experiment is is backed by a feature flag, but, actually, you don't really need to know, much about feature flags at all. The feature flag will be created for you when you set up an experiment. So, like, all you have to do is basically create the experiment, and I believe Brian will later show you how to do that via direct us.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: We will. And,\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: basically, it all kind of, like, happens under under the hood. And, basically, all you need to then do to analyze your experiment is to just let it go to your experiments that impose HOG, and you will be able to analyze your results there. So I'm going to open an example experiment to show you what a results analysis might look like. So over here, I have a running experiment open. You can see that it was started, like, two months ago, which will be, like, a pretty long running experiment, but that's just because, like, it's it's some test data.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But, basically, the the core of each experiment is the metrics that you are tracking. Right? It's it's these metrics that tell you, like, what what exact changes in behavior your your changes in in your content or in your experience are producing. And in this particular experiment, I'm tracking, six different metrics, three primary and three secondary. And the difference between the primary and secondary is just that it's just like the way of of organizing your metrics.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So the primary metrics are something which actually inform whether your experiment is successful or not. And secondary metrics are kind of like guardrails. So it's it's something that you don't really want to regress. It's it's maybe not like a like a metric directly tied to your experiment, but it could be anything from, let's say, like, a session length or or any kind of, like, in interaction maybe indirectly linked to your experiment, but you still may want to track that to make sure that, that you don't get some some other part of your of your product kind of, like, regressed.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Cool. That's a I I like that for sure. Hey. That's that's one of the confusing things for me. It was, like, what goes in primary, what goes in secondary?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Just, so it sounds more of, like, secondary would be like, hey. This is a great guard against unwanted side effects. Like, hey. Exactly. Increased conversion, but, you know, like, the time on the page or or, like, session time or, bounce rate or something rose versus, the actual event that we wanted.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Yeah. So it's just like a way of organizing things. And but other than that, there is really, like, no difference under the hood between, like, a primary metric or a secondary metric. Basically, always, like, at a at a very low level, what we do at Boss Hog is capturing events, and, a metric is like a way of counting those events in a in a certain way.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So let's have a look at at one of these metrics. So let's let's take a look at the first one. I'm going to click at this on this edit button, and here is my metric definition. So this is a funnel metric which measures, the conversion rate between two events. So the first conversion so so the first event here is called sign up started.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The second event is sign up completed. And what this funnel metric measures is the conversion between these two events. So you can see that I have 3,000 persons who did the first event, but only 815 persons who, triggered the second event. And so the the difference between these two events is basically your conversion rate, which in this case is twenty seven percent. And what you actually see here so this is like the the metric definition form.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This is not your experiment result. This is just kinda like a preview, which shows you well, is the data actually there, right, in the in the system? Like, are actually people sending these events? And that kind of tells you that, okay. Like, this is, like, a valid metric to experiment on.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like, our instrumentation is set up properly so we can actually go ahead and and save that metric. So once I save the metric and, well, once the experiment is running, I will start seeing my results once sort of, like, a minimum criteria are met, which is that, you know, you need to have some sort some number of events that have been ingested. You need to have events for both control and test variants. And once all of these are met, you will start seeing results. And the way we present results is kind of like an industry standard way to present results of, you know, AB experiments, which is that we show you this chart, which is called a delta chart.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And what you see here is that for each variant, you will see this bar. And this bar is basically a credible interval. What it shows you is the the actual or let me actually start start start, like this. So so each each bar shows you, the actual difference between that given variant and the control variant. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The the black bar in the middle is the delta between the variant and and the and the control variant. So you can see that in case of the test one variant, we actually have a regression here. So the control is at 0%, and the test one variant is kind of like minus 13%. So that's bad. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like, that's a that's a regression. We have worse conversion rate for the test one variant compared to the control variant. Now for the test two variant, we actually see an improvement. So the delta here is plus 6.92 compared to control, and that's why this bar is in is in green because it's actually gonna be improvement. So that's what the the the black vertical bar tells you.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And now now onto the edges onto the edges of the actual bar. So this is like a credible interval. So what this bar tells you is actually the uncertainty that you have because, in any kind of statistical testing, there is some sort of uncertainty. And this like, the the the outer boundaries of these, credible intervals tells you, what kind of range in the actual results you may expect. And this basically tells you that, this credible interval, goes from minus 3% to plus 70%.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And that means that in ninety five percent of the cases, because this is a so called 95% credible interval, you can expect the true value to lie between, like, this range. So there is still some sort of small probability that there will be a regression, for the test two variant even though, it's kind of like there's a high probability that it will be, some some sort of improvement. The narrower a credible interval is, the higher certainty you have. Right? Because, it's kind of like a tighter range of values where the actual value may lie.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The wider it is, then it's kind of like more more uncertainty. And oftentimes, as you as you collect more data and you, like, keep refreshing results, you can you can kind of, like, observe the variance getting narrower and narrower every day as you kind of gather more data and get gather more more certainty. So that's what these credible intervals bars tell you. It's calculated separately for each of the metrics. And, at post hoc, we use a so called Bayesian statistical methodology, and the two main outputs of the methodology is the credible interval itself, which tells you the the uncertainty of the result.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And kind of like the main output is is what we call win probability. So in this case, for this variant, there is an almost 83% probability that this test two variant is actually better than control. And then we show you, kind of like the the significance banner over here. And at post hoc, the the criterion that we use to tell you whether you should roll out a variant or shouldn't roll out a variant is that the win probability needs to be higher than 90% for the best variant. And in this case, you can see that it's actually less than 90%.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And that's why for this particular metric, we declare it as not significant because it's less than 90%, which is what this tool tip also tells you.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Okay. So now you've just answered, like, my own specific like, this is the biggest question I've had on, like, the experiments that we've ran of, like, what's how do you measure the significance? You know? Because we we've ran several tests, and, I'll get into, like, the specific results here in just a bit of one of our tests. But, like, some of the tests have been like, we saw, like, a it what looked like a positive improvement, but it was marked not significant.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So it's like, like, it you know, can we be confident in that result or not?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. And, we actually keep, improving this UI, and we want to actually, like, make it clearer as to, like, what all of these numbers mean and when you can expect significant.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And it's like why something is significant, why something isn't significant. Just, like, make make all of this kind of decision making clear. So that's that's definitely a a valid point.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: I I I'll just stick you in the UI explaining it, man. Take it like you flawlessly. You did I was\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: gonna ask that again. I I didn't hear that. I I\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: was gonna say, just stick a video of you inside the UI because you, you you did flawlessly.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Oh, nice. Yeah. We might actually do that. That's a that's a great Yeah. Cool.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Am I still sharing? Because I think the, Oh, we lost the screen share. Yeah. Oh, okay. I'll reshare.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Okay. And then, so just like continuing to the second metric, it's it's exactly the same principle. So each metric is is evaluated in exactly the same way. I mean, the the like, on our back end, there are some differences as to how, different metric types are evaluated. So for example, the second metrics the second metric is a different metric type.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? So, like, in in the first case, we had a we were measuring funnel conversion. In the second metric, we are actually just measuring the role click count. And, of course, there are some statistical differences as to how this should be evaluated, like, on the back end. And we make sure that, like, we do this properly.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But for you as a user, there's really no difference. You basically just look at, the movement of these bars relative to the control variant, and you look at the the win probability. And then the banner will will tell you whether a particular metric is significant or not. You can also dive deeper into any particular metrics. So if you click on details, you will see the actual counts for, for each variant.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>You can see that the test variant is strongest. Right? So it makes sense that it has the highest count over here. And this is like a cumulative chart, so the the the counts actually stay the same after we we stopped collecting the data for this experiment. Nice.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Yeah. You can also see things like exposures for each variant, their means, the delta, things like that. There's also like a like a small cool feature, which is that you can actually view recordings for any particular variant. So the the the power of the POSIX platform is really that we offer multiple products, and they are kind of, like, interlinked. So you can can actually, like, click on on this particular variant and see the recordings, like, of those persons that that that actually, like, sold that variant.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And I don't see any recordings here because I'm on my local instance and just, like, using all the data so you can know from actual users. But in Yeah. On actual dashboard, you would actually see recordings, of users where you could actually see how they how they interact with your with your website.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. And and, like, having that all in one has been, like, a significant help for us at Directus. You know, I would it's not like for us, it's it's not stack overflow. It's it's like stack overload. Like, I, you know, I the thought of adding, like, six more tools to your tech stack for your website, is just like a a mess.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's it's like a pain for us. I I don't wanna do it. So and, like, when we integrated post hoc, like, the the analytics for us was, like, one of the one of the first things that we got a lot of value out of, and then we we started diving into the AB testing. You know, as we we kinda shift gears, like, do you have any best practices, your eye on, like like, what to test? You know, obviously, like, you've built this thing.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>You probably worked closely with with some clients at Posthog. Like, what are people testing? Do you have any best practices to share?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Sure. So I would say if you if you are just starting out with experiments, start with something very small. So things like, you know, small changes to your landing page. That will really allow you to, just, like, kind of, like, get, like, how how the whole things works. And, maybe also kind of, like, circumvent some of the gotchas, like, like, why why while you are still starting out.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like, there are, like, several things that you should be aware of if you are implementing AB testing. I'm not sure if if, like I would say, like, maybe there can, like, be on the scope of this of this webinar, but we have, like, section with some troubleshooting and FAQs and, some best practices, when when implementing experiments. To summarize very quickly, I would say the like, one important thing is to make sure that your tracking is set up correctly. So, like, in your code, whenever a user performs a given action, you do actually capture that action so that Pulsar receives that event because, obviously, if we don't receive the correct events, we cannot, provide correct analysis. Now in terms of some in terms of, like, some likely more actionable AB testing advice, I would say start with small changes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Also make sure that, you are testing perhaps only, like, one or two changes at once. Because if you change, like, too many things, let's say, on your on your on your landing page, and then the test is showing, you know, significant outcome, like, you don't really know which which one of those a changes that you've made is actually leading to the improvement. Whereas, if you just like there's, like, small incremental changes, then you would be able to to tell that, kind of, like, more reliably. Another kind of, like, important technical detail is that you should probably use a reverse proxy on your post hoc setup to make sure that the, like, ad blockers are not, like, blocking capturing of the events, which is, like, a common issue, that can be really easily, circumvented with this. We also have, like, proper documentation, on this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like, in general, if if you have, basically, for for any questions, you can use our search functionality in our documentation, for example, for the reverse proxy. That will explain to you exactly what you you should do to to set up also correctly to to be able to circumvent, ad blockers. Another useful tip is to learn how to actually estimate, your sample size properly. So one thing I I haven't explained yet is that we have this data collection section over here. And what this allows you to do is to is to answer the question how long you should run your experiment for.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And, so I'm actually going to show you how this works. So if I click on edit over here, I have this slider which says minimum detectable effect. And this basically says, well, what kind of change in my metric am I trying to measure? And there's, like, a trade off to be made here because, if you are the the way the way sample sizes and experimentation work is that the larger the change you are trying to measure, the smaller the sample size you need. It may sound kind of counterintuitive.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: It it definitely. Definitely. Because I've seen this, and I'm like, like, hey. Why why do we need less people for this?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. And, actually, right now, we are actually completely rebuilding this component to to do, like, a better job, explaining all this. But, basically, what this means is that if there is a huge change in your metric, you don't really need, like, a sensitive test for it. Right? You you don't need, like, a, like, a huge sample size because, if there is, like, a huge effect, that effect will already be apparent in, like, a relatively small sample size.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But if you are trying to measure something much smaller, like, let's say, I'm I'm just going to move this slider from 10% to 2%, I need, like, a much more sensitive test, which means, like, a much higher sample size. Right? So, like, I I basically need, much bigger sample size to be able to reliably say, this 2% change is not just due some sort of chance. It's actually due to the actual change in the in the underlying behavior. But I definitely need, like, a larger sample size for this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So Right. The consideration some some some key considerations here is that are that, first of all, what is the sample size you can actually get? Right? If you if you are a startup and you're just, like, getting your first users, it might be actually difficult to get a sample size of 10,000 persons. So in that case, you are basically restricted to much smaller sample sizes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Right.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: That actually means that your tests would actually would probably have to target, you know, just like large changes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: You wanna go big or go home at that point.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah. But as soon as you have some larger user base, you can start going after, you know, incremental small changes, that perhaps produce, smaller effects on your metrics. But you can you can run, like, many of such experiments and, you know, even incremental changes or or of one or 2% over time. They they really add up to a lot.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So, yeah, there's, like, a trade off to be made here, when it comes to this, so it's it's it's good to be aware of that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Well, awesome. Yeah. Thanks for the best practices, man. Thank you.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like, yeah, I'm I'm learning just as much on this as as the audience, so I appreciate that. We'll jump into, you know, kind of, like, our own experience a little bit, and then I'll, kinda run through the steps of of integrating post hoc and direct us and and, again, show you guys the the source code. We'll we'll dive into it. We won't write code. That didn't work out well for me the last time I, I did one of these live sessions.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But, as far as our own, like, experience with posthog, you know, recently, we rolled out a brand new version of our home page. And I'm gonna can we see this? Oh, yeah. There we go. So this was a big change for us.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And, you know, this one, if I shrink it down, it's probably a little better. But this was a this new homepage was a big shift for us. And one of the things that we wanted to do was we wanted to test first to make sure that, number one, the messaging was wasn't causing a a decrease in conversions. Number two, you know, we wanted to make sure that that this was performing better than our our old home page. You know, we've got this interactive carousel component that basically links into, what we call our directus pizza demo, which is just a a live working instance of directus.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So folks can hop in and and poke around inside one of the templates. Before we we shifted all that traffic, right, we wanted to make sure that this was actually worthwhile. So our own results that we saw got a fancy slide up here somewhere. Boom. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So, the conversions were were relatively the same. And, again, that goes back to kinda your eyes point about, like, what metrics are, you know, how do we measure significant change? But some of the big results that we saw was, like, a 30% decrease in bounce rate on the site, which is huge. And, obviously, that correlates with a, like, a larger session time, most likely because people are getting in the demo of Directus, at least that's our hypothesis, and and actually poking around, which is which is what we want. And and I know you guys at Posthog, you're I, you guys are are kind of following that same methodology of, like, you know, let's let's skip all of the, fluffy marketing stuff and actually get you into the product, so we can actually dive in and and learn.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Alright. So let's actually dive into a this integration. And I put together just, like, this a really nice visual for how we've been doing AB testing with post hoc at Directus. And that is kind of the the concept behind behind this setup. We've done tests at at two levels, and I call it the block level, which is basically testing within the same page, which is, you know, hey.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We wanna test a different headline on the homepage, or we wanna test, a different pricing component or a a different pricing tier. So that would be like a block level test. And then, I I was calling this a page level test, which is basically testing between different pages. You could call it a split test. You guys are calling it redirect testing inside the documentation dry.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But it basically like, we we take a URL. We want to redirect some percentage of the traffic. You know, usually, if it's just two variants you're testing, you you probably split fifty fifty. But but that's the way that we've been doing testing at Directus. And now I'm going to show you how this all comes together.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So, this is post hoc, and we laid a special theme, special post hoc theme on top of a direct us instance just for this webinar. But this is our CMS starter template with a little bit of magic sprinkled into it. So, if we take a look at what I call the checklist where did that guy go? Supposed to have a production person here, Matt. Not calling you out, but I'm calling you out.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>The post hoc checklist, can we see that live? Do I have to stop screen sharing to see that? Yeah. There we go. Alright.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So this is the AB testing checklist, as far as integrating with posthog. I'm gonna show you how to create a a project in posthog. We're going to dive into, like, creating a personal API key to power this little automation that we've got. We're gonna walk through the directest data model. We'll adjust some permissions.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I'll show you the flow that's involved, and we'll talk through, like, this Next. Js front end, and how that is integrated. Alright. So let's get back to the screen share, and we'll do this together. What I'm going to do, and this is a little crazy to do.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We are, like, maxed out as far as projects. So I'm gonna delete this test project. This is, sketchy on a demo on a webinar, but, that's what we're gonna do. Alright. So I'm in post all the first thing we've gotta do.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? We're we're gonna create a project. Just go through this. This is gonna be the AB testing webinar project. Great.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Alright. So we've got our project. I'm gonna need two things. I need the project ID. So I can find that up here in the URL, or, let me get my fancy mouse pointer going here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I can find that from these settings as well. So I'm gonna grab the project ID, and, yes, we will send the recording of this. I promise. Alright. So now in the Directus instance, which you are going to get total unrestricted access to you at the end of this, we've got some global set up.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So global's inside Directus, are basically, just a what we call a singleton collection. So globals are are typically things like, social links or favicons, logos, stuff that you're gonna use across your entire site. So we're gonna add our project ID. And then the other thing that I'm gonna add, I I don't necessarily need this project API key for the directive side of things. You'll need this on the Next.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Js integration. You'll wanna copy it to your clipboard, stick it into your text editor, so that you've got that. But what we're gonna do, we need to go into our personal settings. And the reason why is inside this Directus instance, there's an a nice little automation that will show. Alright.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So I'm gonna log in, reauthenticate for security, and we're gonna look for a personal API key. So I'm just gonna create a new key. This is our a b testing webinar key. We want a specific project that's gonna be our AB testing webinar. Whenever you create keys, whether that's in post hoc or GitHub, please be very specific.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we're gonna do right access on experiments and feature flags, and I think this should be all we need. Am I am I correct in that assumption, your eye?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Looking good to me. Yeah.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Okay. Perfect. Alright. So I'm gonna grab this key. I'm gonna go in, and I'm gonna post that inside this direct us instance.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Amazing. Magic. Right? So let's let's talk through the changes inside this Directus instance. Again, this is our simple CMS template.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like, if you go to Directus.io, you go to get started for free, you create a cloud account, You get logged in. You can get the starting point for this, just by clicking CMS, or you can also get it through our template CLI tool. We'll button up all these resources. But this already has what we call the many to any relationship. It's basically a dynamic page builder that is set up inside your CMS.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So if I open up my live preview pane, we can see that this page is made up of blocks. Right? And this paradigm lends itself to that block test that I was talking about. So that is kind of the setup here. The, extra collections that we've added to this direct to census, which are very minimal, are are just two pieces.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? We have added experiments and experiment variants. And the reason why we add those inside direct us, we need to be able to link the content inside the CMS to the post hoc experiment. And this is it gets back into the why we created this. So we want to empower our marketing team, our content editors, to run tests, right, without code, without bothering the developer, without it being blocked by the developer.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? We want marketers or well, this is my personal mission. I want developers and marketers to get along well. And if you are waiting, on information from marketing to set up the actual code for an AB test, not great. Likewise, if they have to bug you every time they want to test a new variant, that's gonna frustrate you as well.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So, what we do, we've created a a experiments collection. And inside that, pretty simple. We've got a name for the experiment. We've got a feature flag key that you'll see we actually need, inside post hub. We've got a a short description.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We've added a type of test. You know, is it a block or is it a page level test? And then we have our variants. So the variants are a relationship to that experiment variants, and this is pretty simple as well. We've got a key for the variant.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Each experiment has to have a control variant as your eye talked about. And if you're doing a page level experiment or a redirect test, you need to have a URL. So on the front end, running a test is as simple as this. Right? With those pieces put together, and I'm sure Matt is crossing his fingers behind the scenes right now.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Let's do a block level test. Right? So I'm inside Directus. I want to test a new headline. New headline.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Home page. There he is. I see I see him in the chat. New headline for homepage. Alright.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I stole this placeholder copy directly from you guys, Uriah. We want to let's see if this new headline improves conversion. So, hey, this doesn't totally replace post hoc. This is just a a slick integration to work together with the two. So we're gonna pick the test type.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This is gonna be our block level test. We wanna test within the same page. And we'll add the control, and we'll add, just like this new headline variant. Great. Okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Now with that out of the way, we save. What happens behind the scenes? There is an automation. I love automation. Direct as flows is a great way to build these automations.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This is what this automation looks like, and I'll walk you through it really quickly. So whenever I go to create an item inside experiments, we've run this series of operations. We grab our global settings, so that API key, that project ID, and then we format a payload for post hoc. We create a new experiment inside post hoc using their API. Did we lose audio?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Can you hear me okay, Yuri?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: I can hear you, Brian. Yes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Okay. Okay. Alright. I just wanted to make sure. Hopefully, it'll all be in the recording as well.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But, then we've got a another it just it little piece of JavaScript here that formats a feature flag payload, and that's helpful for our redirect test that we're doing. And then basically, we stuff all that into post dog. And at the end of this, we return a payload that gets saved inside Directus. So the effect that we've get is a experiment that gets created inside Posthog. We've got a experiment here inside Directus now that we can actually link to, a piece of content.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So if I go into post dog, we go to experiments. Check installation, skip installation. Skip or no? Skip. I did not remember that part of the creating a project.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Alright. So we could see this experiment here inside post hoc. Let's see. There it is. This is all set up.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But now let's go and link this to a piece of content. Right. So we're gonna go back to our home page, and we've got our hero block. So this is the control block. I'm just gonna go down to the bottom.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And, basically, we've got a a relationship from this block to our experiment, and then we're gonna pick the variant that it belongs to. Except something wasn't quite right. It wouldn't be a demo that I was doing if everything worked smoothly. Why isn't my variant showing up? Clear filters.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Experiment. There is the alright. You got me. Let's clean this up just a bit. I've got tried to get fancy, and I've got, I don't know what level of fancy I got here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But, okay. We'll try this again. Now I'm gonna link this to our new homepage headline experiment. We're going to add this to our control, and now we're gonna add another headline. This is the new headline.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Amazing. It's gonna look beautiful. We're gonna link it to that same experiment, except now I'm gonna link this to our new headline variant. So all I'm doing behind the scenes here, nothing fancy. I'm just linking this piece of content to the posthog experiment.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>On the Next. Js front end, we're making a call. We get this content, And, because we've got posthog integrated, we get something like this. If I hit refresh, right, I don't see two hero images or two hero blocks here. I just see one.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? And that is because of the post hoc SDK that's set up that is handling all the magic, and you could probably understand why I don't want to do all that magic myself. Now let's see if I can actually trigger you're gonna have to show me, like, a a trick to, like, force some type of, visitor into a variant sometime, your eye.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Sure. We can do that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Let's see. This should be put in. Yeah. It's it doesn't seem like I can actually trigger the not triggering the variant here for some reason, through this. But, this is how this is actually integrated.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>This is like a a block level test. Now, you know, if I swap\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Can you, can you open your web tools? Maybe we can try to override a flag, for this particular page. Yeah. I I Oh, we don't have to do that. That was up to you.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So there we go. So if you know, now you could see if I swap the control Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>If I make the headline the control, we could see the difference here. And, basically, the post hoc integration is is pulling that all together. So that is, like, the setup inside Directus. Like, if I wanted to run a page, a a reader direct level test, let's say I wanted to have a a new pricing page. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>If I go to pricing, we've got pricing to fit every budget here. Maybe I wanna change this. We have new pricing. So we'll just create a new page. Pricing to fit no one's budget, and we'll just raise the prices by quite a bit here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Amazing. Alright. So now I'm gonna hit save as copy in this template, and now I've got I've got two new pages or or, well, one new page, but that's our page. I'm gonna go in. And now if I wanna do a redirect level test, I have new pricing page.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Pricing page. We'll do a redirect. So the control, here, we're gonna add this URL. So that'll just be slash pricing. And when you set up the control experiment or the control variant, again, that is the URL that you're testing.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's an important distinction to make. Next, we will add the new pricing page. Great. That's gonna be new pricing. And, again, our direct us flow automation, like, will will bring this home for us and basically create this experiment inside post dog.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we'll just hit refresh. We've got our new pricing experiment, and I can click in and and see the the variance here. And as Yurai showed, there's just a feature flag that backs these. Now what we're doing on the page level tests is we're using the post hog feature flag payloads, to avoid making a extra call to direct us for this information. So if we I think I can get a better view if I click edit here, maybe shrink this back a bit.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>You can kinda see what's going on here. We've got an experiment type. It's a page level test. We've got a control path, so that's our pricing. And then we have a path that we're going to redirect to.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And what happens on the front end if we go to local host 3,000. Now if I try to navigate to pricing, I'm either going to get the control did I I guess we may have to dive into the actual tools here. We'll we'll work that out in a moment. Love giving these demos on the fly. Alright.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>What is next on the agenda? We'll just look at that really quickly. Alright. Our feature flag test. Alright.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we've got the director side of things. We've nailed that piece. And then let's take a look at, like, the Next. Js side. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>We want to, like, walk through how this is actually set up and integrated. So a a couple important pieces that you need as far as, like, setting this up within Next. Js. Let's pull this up. Alright.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Can everybody see this? Okay. Let me try to close close the terminal a bit here. I I can shrink the the size of the make make the font just a little bit bigger. Alright.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So, again, once you download this repo, you know, feel free to to browse through it on GitHub. We'll, again, we'll we'll send you all of this. But let's let's start on the direct side of things. Inside this Next. Js application, there are our fetchers.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we're just using these two. Close. Shrink that. Okay. There we go.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Alright. So these fetchers are are basically just communicating using the Directus SDK. What we've got here and the only change that we've made from our standard Next. Js template is just making sure we grab the experiment data and the experiment variant that we've linked to a page block. So this all comes together on our, like, our page builder setup that we've got.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And one of the other things that you'll have to do inside Directus, you can fetch that data, but you need to be able to add the data to your permissions. So you've got to make sure that your experiment variance and your experiments are enabled underneath your permissions to make this work inside Directus. That is just as far as getting into best practices, that's one of my Directus best practices. At 99% of my errors are because I didn't set permissions. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But we have to add that experiment variant there. And then inside what we call the page builder, there's a a bit of logic here that basically, filters out the blocks. So, this template is set up to run Next. Js server components, so we don't get this flash of content, whenever we enroll someone into a variant. But, basically, we're just checking to see, is this block attached to a variant in an experiment?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>If it is, we get the feature flag from the post halt client, which we'll look at in a moment. And should we add this block? So if the feature flag is found and the block is the control variant, we'll add that control variant. If the feature flag is found and it's not the control variant, we'll make sure we add that to the, to that block. So, not a huge shift in in the logic as far as working with Directus, just simply matching those up.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>On the post hoc side of it, and this is all we it's just standard boilerplate from the post hoc documentation. You need to have a post hoc provider. So we just set this up using use client here because this provider is going to go into a shared, like, a layout inside this Next. Js application. One of the important bits, especially for, like, server side rendering is the bootstrapping.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So, basically, we're getting all the feature flags on the server side from post hoc and making sure we pass that when we initialize the the post hoc JS client on the the client side. And, Yurai, do you have anything to to kinda add on that bootstrapping side? You know? I I know this was, like, one point that was, a a little bit of where I ran into some issues when I was implementing this.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: No. Not really. I would just say that this this is really the preferred way how to how to get a feature flex to your client, for a couple of reasons. Because the the other alternative is to actually fetch the feature flags directly from the client, but there is always some delay there. So, you know, you you you may get some usage events being sent without correct future flag information if you do it that way.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Right? But if you if you bootstrap your flags, that means you always evaluate the flags on the server, which is actually faster because, the POSOC library actually evaluates, the flags there without having to actually go to the POSOC server. So it's actually faster. And once the the web content is served, you already get the feature flags kind of, like, basically already bootstrapped to it. So, this is is actually what what we always recommend, for our users to do.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. Now how you do the bootstrapping, it depends on your specific application. The way that we chose to do it in this specific one.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we've got this post hoc provider. There's a there's a shared layout that I'll I'll show you. This is just how we we use this provider. So inside our root layout component, and this is using the the Next. Js app router setup, we are actually, like, sending this bootstrap data in a header from a Next JS middleware.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So we get that here. We pass it to our provider, that sends it down through the client. But the middleware is an important piece. Now you you could do this via a, like, a server component and, like, if you're not doing the redirect testing, I found that that worked pretty well. But, as far as, like, the redirects, you probably wanna do this in the Next.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Js middleware. Just this is the best way that I've found to do it. So what we've done inside the middleware, if we get to the actual function here. Right? We get the path name that you're sending, you know, what we're navigating to, and then we're basically getting a distinct ID.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So this is just a helper that is somewhere, maybe in a where is that guy? Distinct ID. Yep. So a post log gives stores a cookie. We will try to get the distinct ID for that visitor, that user via that cookie.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>If we can't find it, we're just gonna create one. Right? And then we will look for some cache data inside the cookie. So we've got, like, a a bootstrap cookie, where we're we're caching this data. But, basically, what we're doing to enhance performance and and make sure that you're not, like, delaying rendering every single time, we've got a flag route set up on the API side, which is somewhere.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Posthog flags. So, basically, there's a Node. Js posthog client. We pass that distinct ID to it. We go get all the flags and the payloads, and then we're caching that for sixty seconds.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So as the user navigates, this middleware gets triggered, and, you know, we're we bootstrap that data. And then we also use this to handle our redirect, at the page level. So we've got a check for redirect function, which basically looks at that flag data that we have here. So once we fetch all of those flags from post hoc, we're iterating through those and saying, okay. Are any of these redirects that we've set up matching this experiment?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>If so, then we we send them through. You know, there's a a little bit more fancy stuff behind the scenes, but I I know we're coming up on time with this. Is there I I'm trying to think if there's any other, like, important pieces that I wanted to cover before we turn everybody just totally loose on this thing. I don't think so. Let's see.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Where's my checklist? Redirect. We've configured the provider. And I saw where is was it Jobchum? Yes.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So the that was a good spot. I figured out why this is not working. Thanks to JobChomp. It the public post hoc API key is from my previous project. So that's where I told everybody to take this down, make sure you copy it, but I forgot to stick it into my EMV.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>And, yeah, that's why we were having issues. Always love it on the demos. That's that's always fun. Alright. That's it.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Let's, we'll open it up for q and a. You're I, you know, while we're waiting on questions to come up, I just wanted to say thank you for for jumping on with us and, you know, at least teaching me how to get get more use out of out of the post hoc side of things.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah. It's a it's a it's a pleasure. It's it's a very nice integration that you that you build there. And, we actually have our own kind of, like, no code experimentation tool.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It's still very, like, very much in beta. But, we'll I'd love to get access\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: to that.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. Whoever whoever uses, like, just Bosak can actually, like, already try it out. It's it's, like, not nearly as powerful as as as, like, what direct Directus allows right now as in kind of, like, rearranging blocks and, like like, doing all that. It's basically just for, like, simple simple style changes. But, yeah, perhaps there is also something for us to to learn here.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Yeah. Yeah. You know, I like, hopefully, like, coming out of this, we'll have, like, a, like, a how to dev blog post to to put this together. But, you know, one of the things that I I just I struggle to find any, like, linking to CMS examples. So, now that we've got one, this is how an integration could work.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Let's let's take some questions here from Steven. Do you have a guide on what kind of traffic numbers you need to do effective testing?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Yeah. So maybe I can answer that. So like I said, we we have this sample size calculator, which basically tells you exactly that. Now, that calculation is always tied to a particular metric. Right?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So if you are tracking five metrics, but each of those metrics has kind of, like, different, like, usage numbers, as in, like, different number of persons that actually generate that metric. To be to be really statistically rigorous, you actually have to take the metric with, kinda like the smallest traffic and make sure that you actually get enough traffic for that metric. Right? Other than that, it's it's it's already like what I mentioned. The the the larger the change you are targeting, the smaller the sample size.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>But the smaller the change you are targeting means that, you kind of, like you need to have, like, a more sensitive test, and you need a you need a large larger sample size.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: That makes sense. Alright. One other question I see from Stefan. How would you set up an AB test for global components across multiple pages like a header? Will it be, like, a new type of test that needs to be set up first?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>It it depends. Like, any good development oriented question, the answer is it depends. But, you know, if you've got the let me just pull up direct us real quick, and then we'll I'll give the bonus link in just a moment. Where's this at? Alright.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So, you know, a basically, inside the direct us instance that that we've shown here, on the page block level, we we just added a relationship to the variance. And, you know, we've got the corresponding logic inside the Next. Js application that basically just says, hey. Post all, give me the variance and then assigns one of those. But you could add the same relationship to other pieces of the website if you wanted to, whether that was, you know, your navigation, like, your navigation items, within the setup.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>So this, this CMS setup has navigation already built into it. You know, you could potentially link it there. You know, you could do, like, a a hybrid approach inside the code where you, you know, you hard code some of these tests, which are, like, a lot of the examples in post hoc just for simplicity's sake are are there. In our own experience, it's like I I tryna I kind of, like, look at it through the lens of, like, hey. Is this something we're we're gonna do often?\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Like, do I wanna test header elements often? If so, you know, it might make sense to enable your content editors to be able to do that. If it's, you know, like, a one and done test, you might just, add it to the code and and move on. So, hopefully, that's helpful. Let me throw up the well, I'll just post it here in the chat, if I can.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>What's going on? The screen share is stuck. Why is this not working? Something's going on. Okay.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>I can't post the link here in the chat. Matt, if you're around, post this link in the chat for me. My screen is fouling up as it often does on these demos. We'll we'll definitely send this out in a newsletter after the webinar as well, but, there's a repo where you can get all the source code. If you have any questions, feel free to follow-up with us.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>On the Directus side of things, we are also offering a special little promo. And I can't get this to yeah. Hey. The screen share thing is just spinning for me. So that's where we're at with it.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Uriah, thanks for joining, man. I really enjoyed this. You know, this has been a fun project, and I I appreciate your support and your help along the way.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Likewise.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 0: Excellent. We'll have a recording out for everyone. And with that, thank you, and good night.\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Speaker 1: Thank you, everybody. Good luck. Bye bye.\u003C/p>","And we are live. Alright. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Super excited to kick off this webinar. It's been a long time in the making for me. I have been knee deep in AB testing over the last couple weeks, so super excited. We are going to be covering how to build AB testing inside your CMS with Posthog and Directus. As everybody trickles in, if you are in the chat, let us know where you are from. Hop in the chat. Let us know. Awesome. I am Brian Gillespie from Directus. I see a few of you in the chat already know me. We also have Yurai from Posthog. Yurai, nice to have you. Hey, everybody. Nice to meet you. I'm Yorai. I live in Amsterdam, Netherlands, and I've been at Posthog for about a year and a half. And for the last year or so, I've been, working hard, on our AB testing tool, which I'm hoping to, demo you a bit today. Yes. I could I I'm excited because I'm gonna learn a bit on this one as well. Obviously, I've done a lot of the technical implementation for not just our own use case at Directus, but, for this amazing bonus that we got for everyone at the conclusion of this. But, I, you know, I I haven't messed around with all of the the the, like, the metrics and, like, the testing and it just like, all of the config inside post hoc is is tremendously powerful. So I looking to, I guess, forward to seeing what, you know, how that is cooked up on your end. Alright. Let's, let's cover the agenda, and then we'll kinda give a brief overview of, both direct us and post hoc just because I I saw some questions in the sign up of the people that weren't familiar with either one. So this is obviously the awkward introduction phase. Hi. Okay. I see everybody. Canada, Tampa, Florida, Texas. Amazing. Nashville. Next, we're going to kick it over to Yurai where they'll cover he'll cover, basically, a demo of post hoc and how you set up experiments, how you run AB testing, what's a feature flag, what's not, what you should be thinking about as you're testing. And then we're going to, basically do a live jam sesh of how to connect Directus and Posthog using this, the starter kit that we've created. And we'll open this up for q and a at the end of this. And I'll show you guys how to get this amazing bonus with, the working source code, fingers crossed. Right? So you don't have to invest the time and headache that I have invested over the last couple weeks. But with that, Yirai, maybe you want to talk a little bit about post hoc for those who are unfamiliar with the tool. Sure. I guess it'll be easier if I share my screen right away. Yeah. Go for it. Let me do that. Alright. Well, so post hoc, started as, as a product analytics platform, but we've really evolved into kind of, like, an all in one solution which allows you to build great products. So, besides product analytics, we have today more tools such as session replay, feature flags, surveys, you know, data warehouse, and, of course, experiments, which we'll talk about today. So experiments, basically allow you to, test, like, variations on your website, test different changes, and see if those changes lead to some kind of improvements in the behavior of your users, which is then, of course, visible in the metrics that you are tracking. So the way it works is that you you use post hoc's product or feature called feature flags. And feature flags basically assign different variations of your website to your users. And usually, by default, you will be testing two variations, on your website. The variations will be normally called control and test. And let's say user a will get the variation control, user b gets the variation test. They will both see something different on your website, and then, you know, PulseHawk will track the behavior of your users on the website by capturing events. And then we aggregate those events on our site, and we basically calculate results for you, which tell you whether a particular variation is better than some other variation. So like I said, every experiment is is backed by a feature flag, but, actually, you don't really need to know, much about feature flags at all. The feature flag will be created for you when you set up an experiment. So, like, all you have to do is basically create the experiment, and I believe Brian will later show you how to do that via direct us. We will. And, basically, it all kind of, like, happens under under the hood. And, basically, all you need to then do to analyze your experiment is to just let it go to your experiments that impose HOG, and you will be able to analyze your results there. So I'm going to open an example experiment to show you what a results analysis might look like. So over here, I have a running experiment open. You can see that it was started, like, two months ago, which will be, like, a pretty long running experiment, but that's just because, like, it's it's some test data. But, basically, the the core of each experiment is the metrics that you are tracking. Right? It's it's these metrics that tell you, like, what what exact changes in behavior your your changes in in your content or in your experience are producing. And in this particular experiment, I'm tracking, six different metrics, three primary and three secondary. And the difference between the primary and secondary is just that it's just like the way of of organizing your metrics. So the primary metrics are something which actually inform whether your experiment is successful or not. And secondary metrics are kind of like guardrails. So it's it's something that you don't really want to regress. It's it's maybe not like a like a metric directly tied to your experiment, but it could be anything from, let's say, like, a session length or or any kind of, like, in interaction maybe indirectly linked to your experiment, but you still may want to track that to make sure that, that you don't get some some other part of your of your product kind of, like, regressed. Cool. That's a I I like that for sure. Hey. That's that's one of the confusing things for me. It was, like, what goes in primary, what goes in secondary? Just, so it sounds more of, like, secondary would be like, hey. This is a great guard against unwanted side effects. Like, hey. Exactly. Increased conversion, but, you know, like, the time on the page or or, like, session time or, bounce rate or something rose versus, the actual event that we wanted. That's exactly right. Yeah. So it's just like a way of organizing things. And but other than that, there is really, like, no difference under the hood between, like, a primary metric or a secondary metric. Basically, always, like, at a at a very low level, what we do at Boss Hog is capturing events, and, a metric is like a way of counting those events in a in a certain way. So let's have a look at at one of these metrics. So let's let's take a look at the first one. I'm going to click at this on this edit button, and here is my metric definition. So this is a funnel metric which measures, the conversion rate between two events. So the first conversion so so the first event here is called sign up started. The second event is sign up completed. And what this funnel metric measures is the conversion between these two events. So you can see that I have 3,000 persons who did the first event, but only 815 persons who, triggered the second event. And so the the difference between these two events is basically your conversion rate, which in this case is twenty seven percent. And what you actually see here so this is like the the metric definition form. This is not your experiment result. This is just kinda like a preview, which shows you well, is the data actually there, right, in the in the system? Like, are actually people sending these events? And that kind of tells you that, okay. Like, this is, like, a valid metric to experiment on. Like, our instrumentation is set up properly so we can actually go ahead and and save that metric. So once I save the metric and, well, once the experiment is running, I will start seeing my results once sort of, like, a minimum criteria are met, which is that, you know, you need to have some sort some number of events that have been ingested. You need to have events for both control and test variants. And once all of these are met, you will start seeing results. And the way we present results is kind of like an industry standard way to present results of, you know, AB experiments, which is that we show you this chart, which is called a delta chart. And what you see here is that for each variant, you will see this bar. And this bar is basically a credible interval. What it shows you is the the actual or let me actually start start start, like this. So so each each bar shows you, the actual difference between that given variant and the control variant. Right? The the black bar in the middle is the delta between the variant and and the and the control variant. So you can see that in case of the test one variant, we actually have a regression here. So the control is at 0%, and the test one variant is kind of like minus 13%. So that's bad. Right? Like, that's a that's a regression. We have worse conversion rate for the test one variant compared to the control variant. Now for the test two variant, we actually see an improvement. So the delta here is plus 6.92 compared to control, and that's why this bar is in is in green because it's actually gonna be improvement. So that's what the the the black vertical bar tells you. And now now onto the edges onto the edges of the actual bar. So this is like a credible interval. So what this bar tells you is actually the uncertainty that you have because, in any kind of statistical testing, there is some sort of uncertainty. And this like, the the the outer boundaries of these, credible intervals tells you, what kind of range in the actual results you may expect. And this basically tells you that, this credible interval, goes from minus 3% to plus 70%. And that means that in ninety five percent of the cases, because this is a so called 95% credible interval, you can expect the true value to lie between, like, this range. So there is still some sort of small probability that there will be a regression, for the test two variant even though, it's kind of like there's a high probability that it will be, some some sort of improvement. The narrower a credible interval is, the higher certainty you have. Right? Because, it's kind of like a tighter range of values where the actual value may lie. The wider it is, then it's kind of like more more uncertainty. And oftentimes, as you as you collect more data and you, like, keep refreshing results, you can you can kind of, like, observe the variance getting narrower and narrower every day as you kind of gather more data and get gather more more certainty. So that's what these credible intervals bars tell you. It's calculated separately for each of the metrics. And, at post hoc, we use a so called Bayesian statistical methodology, and the two main outputs of the methodology is the credible interval itself, which tells you the the uncertainty of the result. And kind of like the main output is is what we call win probability. So in this case, for this variant, there is an almost 83% probability that this test two variant is actually better than control. And then we show you, kind of like the the significance banner over here. And at post hoc, the the criterion that we use to tell you whether you should roll out a variant or shouldn't roll out a variant is that the win probability needs to be higher than 90% for the best variant. And in this case, you can see that it's actually less than 90%. And that's why for this particular metric, we declare it as not significant because it's less than 90%, which is what this tool tip also tells you. Okay. So now you've just answered, like, my own specific like, this is the biggest question I've had on, like, the experiments that we've ran of, like, what's how do you measure the significance? You know? Because we we've ran several tests, and, I'll get into, like, the specific results here in just a bit of one of our tests. But, like, some of the tests have been like, we saw, like, a it what looked like a positive improvement, but it was marked not significant. So it's like, like, it you know, can we be confident in that result or not? Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. And, we actually keep, improving this UI, and we want to actually, like, make it clearer as to, like, what all of these numbers mean and when you can expect significant. And it's like why something is significant, why something isn't significant. Just, like, make make all of this kind of decision making clear. So that's that's definitely a a valid point. I I I'll just stick you in the UI explaining it, man. Take it like you flawlessly. You did I was gonna ask that again. I I didn't hear that. I I was gonna say, just stick a video of you inside the UI because you, you you did flawlessly. Oh, nice. Yeah. We might actually do that. That's a that's a great Yeah. Cool. Am I still sharing? Because I think the, Oh, we lost the screen share. Yeah. Oh, okay. I'll reshare. Okay. And then, so just like continuing to the second metric, it's it's exactly the same principle. So each metric is is evaluated in exactly the same way. I mean, the the like, on our back end, there are some differences as to how, different metric types are evaluated. So for example, the second metrics the second metric is a different metric type. Right? So, like, in in the first case, we had a we were measuring funnel conversion. In the second metric, we are actually just measuring the role click count. And, of course, there are some statistical differences as to how this should be evaluated, like, on the back end. And we make sure that, like, we do this properly. But for you as a user, there's really no difference. You basically just look at, the movement of these bars relative to the control variant, and you look at the the win probability. And then the banner will will tell you whether a particular metric is significant or not. You can also dive deeper into any particular metrics. So if you click on details, you will see the actual counts for, for each variant. You can see that the test variant is strongest. Right? So it makes sense that it has the highest count over here. And this is like a cumulative chart, so the the the counts actually stay the same after we we stopped collecting the data for this experiment. Nice. Yeah. You can also see things like exposures for each variant, their means, the delta, things like that. There's also like a like a small cool feature, which is that you can actually view recordings for any particular variant. So the the the power of the POSIX platform is really that we offer multiple products, and they are kind of, like, interlinked. So you can can actually, like, click on on this particular variant and see the recordings, like, of those persons that that that actually, like, sold that variant. And I don't see any recordings here because I'm on my local instance and just, like, using all the data so you can know from actual users. But in Yeah. On actual dashboard, you would actually see recordings, of users where you could actually see how they how they interact with your with your website. Yeah. And and, like, having that all in one has been, like, a significant help for us at Directus. You know, I would it's not like for us, it's it's not stack overflow. It's it's like stack overload. Like, I, you know, I the thought of adding, like, six more tools to your tech stack for your website, is just like a a mess. It's it's like a pain for us. I I don't wanna do it. So and, like, when we integrated post hoc, like, the the analytics for us was, like, one of the one of the first things that we got a lot of value out of, and then we we started diving into the AB testing. You know, as we we kinda shift gears, like, do you have any best practices, your eye on, like like, what to test? You know, obviously, like, you've built this thing. You probably worked closely with with some clients at Posthog. Like, what are people testing? Do you have any best practices to share? Sure. So I would say if you if you are just starting out with experiments, start with something very small. So things like, you know, small changes to your landing page. That will really allow you to, just, like, kind of, like, get, like, how how the whole things works. And, maybe also kind of, like, circumvent some of the gotchas, like, like, why why while you are still starting out. Like, there are, like, several things that you should be aware of if you are implementing AB testing. I'm not sure if if, like I would say, like, maybe there can, like, be on the scope of this of this webinar, but we have, like, section with some troubleshooting and FAQs and, some best practices, when when implementing experiments. To summarize very quickly, I would say the like, one important thing is to make sure that your tracking is set up correctly. So, like, in your code, whenever a user performs a given action, you do actually capture that action so that Pulsar receives that event because, obviously, if we don't receive the correct events, we cannot, provide correct analysis. Now in terms of some in terms of, like, some likely more actionable AB testing advice, I would say start with small changes. Also make sure that, you are testing perhaps only, like, one or two changes at once. Because if you change, like, too many things, let's say, on your on your on your landing page, and then the test is showing, you know, significant outcome, like, you don't really know which which one of those a changes that you've made is actually leading to the improvement. Whereas, if you just like there's, like, small incremental changes, then you would be able to to tell that, kind of, like, more reliably. Another kind of, like, important technical detail is that you should probably use a reverse proxy on your post hoc setup to make sure that the, like, ad blockers are not, like, blocking capturing of the events, which is, like, a common issue, that can be really easily, circumvented with this. We also have, like, proper documentation, on this. Like, in general, if if you have, basically, for for any questions, you can use our search functionality in our documentation, for example, for the reverse proxy. That will explain to you exactly what you you should do to to set up also correctly to to be able to circumvent, ad blockers. Another useful tip is to learn how to actually estimate, your sample size properly. So one thing I I haven't explained yet is that we have this data collection section over here. And what this allows you to do is to is to answer the question how long you should run your experiment for. And, so I'm actually going to show you how this works. So if I click on edit over here, I have this slider which says minimum detectable effect. And this basically says, well, what kind of change in my metric am I trying to measure? And there's, like, a trade off to be made here because, if you are the the way the way sample sizes and experimentation work is that the larger the change you are trying to measure, the smaller the sample size you need. It may sound kind of counterintuitive. It it definitely. Definitely. Because I've seen this, and I'm like, like, hey. Why why do we need less people for this? Yeah. And, actually, right now, we are actually completely rebuilding this component to to do, like, a better job, explaining all this. But, basically, what this means is that if there is a huge change in your metric, you don't really need, like, a sensitive test for it. Right? You you don't need, like, a, like, a huge sample size because, if there is, like, a huge effect, that effect will already be apparent in, like, a relatively small sample size. But if you are trying to measure something much smaller, like, let's say, I'm I'm just going to move this slider from 10% to 2%, I need, like, a much more sensitive test, which means, like, a much higher sample size. Right? So, like, I I basically need, much bigger sample size to be able to reliably say, this 2% change is not just due some sort of chance. It's actually due to the actual change in the in the underlying behavior. But I definitely need, like, a larger sample size for this. So Right. The consideration some some some key considerations here is that are that, first of all, what is the sample size you can actually get? Right? If you if you are a startup and you're just, like, getting your first users, it might be actually difficult to get a sample size of 10,000 persons. So in that case, you are basically restricted to much smaller sample sizes. And Right. That actually means that your tests would actually would probably have to target, you know, just like large changes. You wanna go big or go home at that point. Exactly. Yeah. But as soon as you have some larger user base, you can start going after, you know, incremental small changes, that perhaps produce, smaller effects on your metrics. But you can you can run, like, many of such experiments and, you know, even incremental changes or or of one or 2% over time. They they really add up to a lot. So, yeah, there's, like, a trade off to be made here, when it comes to this, so it's it's it's good to be aware of that. Yeah. Well, awesome. Yeah. Thanks for the best practices, man. Thank you. Like, yeah, I'm I'm learning just as much on this as as the audience, so I appreciate that. We'll jump into, you know, kind of, like, our own experience a little bit, and then I'll, kinda run through the steps of of integrating post hoc and direct us and and, again, show you guys the the source code. We'll we'll dive into it. We won't write code. That didn't work out well for me the last time I, I did one of these live sessions. But, as far as our own, like, experience with posthog, you know, recently, we rolled out a brand new version of our home page. And I'm gonna can we see this? Oh, yeah. There we go. So this was a big change for us. And, you know, this one, if I shrink it down, it's probably a little better. But this was a this new homepage was a big shift for us. And one of the things that we wanted to do was we wanted to test first to make sure that, number one, the messaging was wasn't causing a a decrease in conversions. Number two, you know, we wanted to make sure that that this was performing better than our our old home page. You know, we've got this interactive carousel component that basically links into, what we call our directus pizza demo, which is just a a live working instance of directus. So folks can hop in and and poke around inside one of the templates. Before we we shifted all that traffic, right, we wanted to make sure that this was actually worthwhile. So our own results that we saw got a fancy slide up here somewhere. Boom. Yeah. So, the conversions were were relatively the same. And, again, that goes back to kinda your eyes point about, like, what metrics are, you know, how do we measure significant change? But some of the big results that we saw was, like, a 30% decrease in bounce rate on the site, which is huge. And, obviously, that correlates with a, like, a larger session time, most likely because people are getting in the demo of Directus, at least that's our hypothesis, and and actually poking around, which is which is what we want. And and I know you guys at Posthog, you're I, you guys are are kind of following that same methodology of, like, you know, let's let's skip all of the, fluffy marketing stuff and actually get you into the product, so we can actually dive in and and learn. Alright. So let's actually dive into a this integration. And I put together just, like, this a really nice visual for how we've been doing AB testing with post hoc at Directus. And that is kind of the the concept behind behind this setup. We've done tests at at two levels, and I call it the block level, which is basically testing within the same page, which is, you know, hey. We wanna test a different headline on the homepage, or we wanna test, a different pricing component or a a different pricing tier. So that would be like a block level test. And then, I I was calling this a page level test, which is basically testing between different pages. You could call it a split test. You guys are calling it redirect testing inside the documentation dry. But it basically like, we we take a URL. We want to redirect some percentage of the traffic. You know, usually, if it's just two variants you're testing, you you probably split fifty fifty. But but that's the way that we've been doing testing at Directus. And now I'm going to show you how this all comes together. So, this is post hoc, and we laid a special theme, special post hoc theme on top of a direct us instance just for this webinar. But this is our CMS starter template with a little bit of magic sprinkled into it. So, if we take a look at what I call the checklist where did that guy go? Supposed to have a production person here, Matt. Not calling you out, but I'm calling you out. The post hoc checklist, can we see that live? Do I have to stop screen sharing to see that? Yeah. There we go. Alright. So this is the AB testing checklist, as far as integrating with posthog. I'm gonna show you how to create a a project in posthog. We're going to dive into, like, creating a personal API key to power this little automation that we've got. We're gonna walk through the directest data model. We'll adjust some permissions. I'll show you the flow that's involved, and we'll talk through, like, this Next. Js front end, and how that is integrated. Alright. So let's get back to the screen share, and we'll do this together. What I'm going to do, and this is a little crazy to do. We are, like, maxed out as far as projects. So I'm gonna delete this test project. This is, sketchy on a demo on a webinar, but, that's what we're gonna do. Alright. So I'm in post all the first thing we've gotta do. Right? We're we're gonna create a project. Just go through this. This is gonna be the AB testing webinar project. Great. Alright. So we've got our project. I'm gonna need two things. I need the project ID. So I can find that up here in the URL, or, let me get my fancy mouse pointer going here. I can find that from these settings as well. So I'm gonna grab the project ID, and, yes, we will send the recording of this. I promise. Alright. So now in the Directus instance, which you are going to get total unrestricted access to you at the end of this, we've got some global set up. So global's inside Directus, are basically, just a what we call a singleton collection. So globals are are typically things like, social links or favicons, logos, stuff that you're gonna use across your entire site. So we're gonna add our project ID. And then the other thing that I'm gonna add, I I don't necessarily need this project API key for the directive side of things. You'll need this on the Next. Js integration. You'll wanna copy it to your clipboard, stick it into your text editor, so that you've got that. But what we're gonna do, we need to go into our personal settings. And the reason why is inside this Directus instance, there's an a nice little automation that will show. Alright. So I'm gonna log in, reauthenticate for security, and we're gonna look for a personal API key. So I'm just gonna create a new key. This is our a b testing webinar key. We want a specific project that's gonna be our AB testing webinar. Whenever you create keys, whether that's in post hoc or GitHub, please be very specific. So we're gonna do right access on experiments and feature flags, and I think this should be all we need. Am I am I correct in that assumption, your eye? Looking good to me. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. Alright. So I'm gonna grab this key. I'm gonna go in, and I'm gonna post that inside this direct us instance. Amazing. Magic. Right? So let's let's talk through the changes inside this Directus instance. Again, this is our simple CMS template. Like, if you go to Directus.io, you go to get started for free, you create a cloud account, You get logged in. You can get the starting point for this, just by clicking CMS, or you can also get it through our template CLI tool. We'll button up all these resources. But this already has what we call the many to any relationship. It's basically a dynamic page builder that is set up inside your CMS. So if I open up my live preview pane, we can see that this page is made up of blocks. Right? And this paradigm lends itself to that block test that I was talking about. So that is kind of the setup here. The, extra collections that we've added to this direct to census, which are very minimal, are are just two pieces. Right? We have added experiments and experiment variants. And the reason why we add those inside direct us, we need to be able to link the content inside the CMS to the post hoc experiment. And this is it gets back into the why we created this. So we want to empower our marketing team, our content editors, to run tests, right, without code, without bothering the developer, without it being blocked by the developer. Right? We want marketers or well, this is my personal mission. I want developers and marketers to get along well. And if you are waiting, on information from marketing to set up the actual code for an AB test, not great. Likewise, if they have to bug you every time they want to test a new variant, that's gonna frustrate you as well. So, what we do, we've created a a experiments collection. And inside that, pretty simple. We've got a name for the experiment. We've got a feature flag key that you'll see we actually need, inside post hub. We've got a a short description. We've added a type of test. You know, is it a block or is it a page level test? And then we have our variants. So the variants are a relationship to that experiment variants, and this is pretty simple as well. We've got a key for the variant. Each experiment has to have a control variant as your eye talked about. And if you're doing a page level experiment or a redirect test, you need to have a URL. So on the front end, running a test is as simple as this. Right? With those pieces put together, and I'm sure Matt is crossing his fingers behind the scenes right now. Let's do a block level test. Right? So I'm inside Directus. I want to test a new headline. New headline. Home page. There he is. I see I see him in the chat. New headline for homepage. Alright. I stole this placeholder copy directly from you guys, Uriah. We want to let's see if this new headline improves conversion. So, hey, this doesn't totally replace post hoc. This is just a a slick integration to work together with the two. So we're gonna pick the test type. This is gonna be our block level test. We wanna test within the same page. And we'll add the control, and we'll add, just like this new headline variant. Great. Okay. Now with that out of the way, we save. What happens behind the scenes? There is an automation. I love automation. Direct as flows is a great way to build these automations. This is what this automation looks like, and I'll walk you through it really quickly. So whenever I go to create an item inside experiments, we've run this series of operations. We grab our global settings, so that API key, that project ID, and then we format a payload for post hoc. We create a new experiment inside post hoc using their API. Did we lose audio? Can you hear me okay, Yuri? I can hear you, Brian. Yes. Okay. Okay. Alright. I just wanted to make sure. Hopefully, it'll all be in the recording as well. But, then we've got a another it just it little piece of JavaScript here that formats a feature flag payload, and that's helpful for our redirect test that we're doing. And then basically, we stuff all that into post dog. And at the end of this, we return a payload that gets saved inside Directus. So the effect that we've get is a experiment that gets created inside Posthog. We've got a experiment here inside Directus now that we can actually link to, a piece of content. So if I go into post dog, we go to experiments. Check installation, skip installation. Skip or no? Skip. I did not remember that part of the creating a project. Alright. So we could see this experiment here inside post hoc. Let's see. There it is. This is all set up. But now let's go and link this to a piece of content. Right. So we're gonna go back to our home page, and we've got our hero block. So this is the control block. I'm just gonna go down to the bottom. And, basically, we've got a a relationship from this block to our experiment, and then we're gonna pick the variant that it belongs to. Except something wasn't quite right. It wouldn't be a demo that I was doing if everything worked smoothly. Why isn't my variant showing up? Clear filters. Experiment. There is the alright. You got me. Let's clean this up just a bit. I've got tried to get fancy, and I've got, I don't know what level of fancy I got here. But, okay. We'll try this again. Now I'm gonna link this to our new homepage headline experiment. We're going to add this to our control, and now we're gonna add another headline. This is the new headline. Amazing. It's gonna look beautiful. We're gonna link it to that same experiment, except now I'm gonna link this to our new headline variant. So all I'm doing behind the scenes here, nothing fancy. I'm just linking this piece of content to the posthog experiment. On the Next. Js front end, we're making a call. We get this content, And, because we've got posthog integrated, we get something like this. If I hit refresh, right, I don't see two hero images or two hero blocks here. I just see one. Right? And that is because of the post hoc SDK that's set up that is handling all the magic, and you could probably understand why I don't want to do all that magic myself. Now let's see if I can actually trigger you're gonna have to show me, like, a a trick to, like, force some type of, visitor into a variant sometime, your eye. Sure. We can do that. Let's see. This should be put in. Yeah. It's it doesn't seem like I can actually trigger the not triggering the variant here for some reason, through this. But, this is how this is actually integrated. This is like a a block level test. Now, you know, if I swap Can you, can you open your web tools? Maybe we can try to override a flag, for this particular page. Yeah. I I Oh, we don't have to do that. That was up to you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So there we go. So if you know, now you could see if I swap the control Right? If I make the headline the control, we could see the difference here. And, basically, the post hoc integration is is pulling that all together. So that is, like, the setup inside Directus. Like, if I wanted to run a page, a a reader direct level test, let's say I wanted to have a a new pricing page. Right? If I go to pricing, we've got pricing to fit every budget here. Maybe I wanna change this. We have new pricing. So we'll just create a new page. Pricing to fit no one's budget, and we'll just raise the prices by quite a bit here. Amazing. Alright. So now I'm gonna hit save as copy in this template, and now I've got I've got two new pages or or, well, one new page, but that's our page. I'm gonna go in. And now if I wanna do a redirect level test, I have new pricing page. Pricing page. We'll do a redirect. So the control, here, we're gonna add this URL. So that'll just be slash pricing. And when you set up the control experiment or the control variant, again, that is the URL that you're testing. It's an important distinction to make. Next, we will add the new pricing page. Great. That's gonna be new pricing. And, again, our direct us flow automation, like, will will bring this home for us and basically create this experiment inside post dog. So we'll just hit refresh. We've got our new pricing experiment, and I can click in and and see the the variance here. And as Yurai showed, there's just a feature flag that backs these. Now what we're doing on the page level tests is we're using the post hog feature flag payloads, to avoid making a extra call to direct us for this information. So if we I think I can get a better view if I click edit here, maybe shrink this back a bit. You can kinda see what's going on here. We've got an experiment type. It's a page level test. We've got a control path, so that's our pricing. And then we have a path that we're going to redirect to. And what happens on the front end if we go to local host 3,000. Now if I try to navigate to pricing, I'm either going to get the control did I I guess we may have to dive into the actual tools here. We'll we'll work that out in a moment. Love giving these demos on the fly. Alright. What is next on the agenda? We'll just look at that really quickly. Alright. Our feature flag test. Alright. So we've got the director side of things. We've nailed that piece. And then let's take a look at, like, the Next. Js side. Right? We want to, like, walk through how this is actually set up and integrated. So a a couple important pieces that you need as far as, like, setting this up within Next. Js. Let's pull this up. Alright. Can everybody see this? Okay. Let me try to close close the terminal a bit here. I I can shrink the the size of the make make the font just a little bit bigger. Alright. So, again, once you download this repo, you know, feel free to to browse through it on GitHub. We'll, again, we'll we'll send you all of this. But let's let's start on the direct side of things. Inside this Next. Js application, there are our fetchers. So we're just using these two. Close. Shrink that. Okay. There we go. Alright. So these fetchers are are basically just communicating using the Directus SDK. What we've got here and the only change that we've made from our standard Next. Js template is just making sure we grab the experiment data and the experiment variant that we've linked to a page block. So this all comes together on our, like, our page builder setup that we've got. And one of the other things that you'll have to do inside Directus, you can fetch that data, but you need to be able to add the data to your permissions. So you've got to make sure that your experiment variance and your experiments are enabled underneath your permissions to make this work inside Directus. That is just as far as getting into best practices, that's one of my Directus best practices. At 99% of my errors are because I didn't set permissions. Right? But we have to add that experiment variant there. And then inside what we call the page builder, there's a a bit of logic here that basically, filters out the blocks. So, this template is set up to run Next. Js server components, so we don't get this flash of content, whenever we enroll someone into a variant. But, basically, we're just checking to see, is this block attached to a variant in an experiment? If it is, we get the feature flag from the post halt client, which we'll look at in a moment. And should we add this block? So if the feature flag is found and the block is the control variant, we'll add that control variant. If the feature flag is found and it's not the control variant, we'll make sure we add that to the, to that block. So, not a huge shift in in the logic as far as working with Directus, just simply matching those up. On the post hoc side of it, and this is all we it's just standard boilerplate from the post hoc documentation. You need to have a post hoc provider. So we just set this up using use client here because this provider is going to go into a shared, like, a layout inside this Next. Js application. One of the important bits, especially for, like, server side rendering is the bootstrapping. So, basically, we're getting all the feature flags on the server side from post hoc and making sure we pass that when we initialize the the post hoc JS client on the the client side. And, Yurai, do you have anything to to kinda add on that bootstrapping side? You know? I I know this was, like, one point that was, a a little bit of where I ran into some issues when I was implementing this. No. Not really. I would just say that this this is really the preferred way how to how to get a feature flex to your client, for a couple of reasons. Because the the other alternative is to actually fetch the feature flags directly from the client, but there is always some delay there. So, you know, you you you may get some usage events being sent without correct future flag information if you do it that way. Right? But if you if you bootstrap your flags, that means you always evaluate the flags on the server, which is actually faster because, the POSOC library actually evaluates, the flags there without having to actually go to the POSOC server. So it's actually faster. And once the the web content is served, you already get the feature flags kind of, like, basically already bootstrapped to it. So, this is is actually what what we always recommend, for our users to do. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. Now how you do the bootstrapping, it depends on your specific application. The way that we chose to do it in this specific one. So we've got this post hoc provider. There's a there's a shared layout that I'll I'll show you. This is just how we we use this provider. So inside our root layout component, and this is using the the Next. Js app router setup, we are actually, like, sending this bootstrap data in a header from a Next JS middleware. So we get that here. We pass it to our provider, that sends it down through the client. But the middleware is an important piece. Now you you could do this via a, like, a server component and, like, if you're not doing the redirect testing, I found that that worked pretty well. But, as far as, like, the redirects, you probably wanna do this in the Next. Js middleware. Just this is the best way that I've found to do it. So what we've done inside the middleware, if we get to the actual function here. Right? We get the path name that you're sending, you know, what we're navigating to, and then we're basically getting a distinct ID. So this is just a helper that is somewhere, maybe in a where is that guy? Distinct ID. Yep. So a post log gives stores a cookie. We will try to get the distinct ID for that visitor, that user via that cookie. If we can't find it, we're just gonna create one. Right? And then we will look for some cache data inside the cookie. So we've got, like, a a bootstrap cookie, where we're we're caching this data. But, basically, what we're doing to enhance performance and and make sure that you're not, like, delaying rendering every single time, we've got a flag route set up on the API side, which is somewhere. Posthog flags. So, basically, there's a Node. Js posthog client. We pass that distinct ID to it. We go get all the flags and the payloads, and then we're caching that for sixty seconds. So as the user navigates, this middleware gets triggered, and, you know, we're we bootstrap that data. And then we also use this to handle our redirect, at the page level. So we've got a check for redirect function, which basically looks at that flag data that we have here. So once we fetch all of those flags from post hoc, we're iterating through those and saying, okay. Are any of these redirects that we've set up matching this experiment? If so, then we we send them through. You know, there's a a little bit more fancy stuff behind the scenes, but I I know we're coming up on time with this. Is there I I'm trying to think if there's any other, like, important pieces that I wanted to cover before we turn everybody just totally loose on this thing. I don't think so. Let's see. Where's my checklist? Redirect. We've configured the provider. And I saw where is was it Jobchum? Yes. So the that was a good spot. I figured out why this is not working. Thanks to JobChomp. It the public post hoc API key is from my previous project. So that's where I told everybody to take this down, make sure you copy it, but I forgot to stick it into my EMV. And, yeah, that's why we were having issues. Always love it on the demos. That's that's always fun. Alright. That's it. Let's, we'll open it up for q and a. You're I, you know, while we're waiting on questions to come up, I just wanted to say thank you for for jumping on with us and, you know, at least teaching me how to get get more use out of out of the post hoc side of things. Of course. Yeah. It's a it's a it's a pleasure. It's it's a very nice integration that you that you build there. And, we actually have our own kind of, like, no code experimentation tool. It's still very, like, very much in beta. But, we'll I'd love to get access to that. Yeah. Whoever whoever uses, like, just Bosak can actually, like, already try it out. It's it's, like, not nearly as powerful as as as, like, what direct Directus allows right now as in kind of, like, rearranging blocks and, like like, doing all that. It's basically just for, like, simple simple style changes. But, yeah, perhaps there is also something for us to to learn here. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I like, hopefully, like, coming out of this, we'll have, like, a, like, a how to dev blog post to to put this together. But, you know, one of the things that I I just I struggle to find any, like, linking to CMS examples. So, now that we've got one, this is how an integration could work. Let's let's take some questions here from Steven. Do you have a guide on what kind of traffic numbers you need to do effective testing? Yeah. So maybe I can answer that. So like I said, we we have this sample size calculator, which basically tells you exactly that. Now, that calculation is always tied to a particular metric. Right? So if you are tracking five metrics, but each of those metrics has kind of, like, different, like, usage numbers, as in, like, different number of persons that actually generate that metric. To be to be really statistically rigorous, you actually have to take the metric with, kinda like the smallest traffic and make sure that you actually get enough traffic for that metric. Right? Other than that, it's it's it's already like what I mentioned. The the the larger the change you are targeting, the smaller the sample size. But the smaller the change you are targeting means that, you kind of, like you need to have, like, a more sensitive test, and you need a you need a large larger sample size. That makes sense. Alright. One other question I see from Stefan. How would you set up an AB test for global components across multiple pages like a header? Will it be, like, a new type of test that needs to be set up first? It it depends. Like, any good development oriented question, the answer is it depends. But, you know, if you've got the let me just pull up direct us real quick, and then we'll I'll give the bonus link in just a moment. Where's this at? Alright. So, you know, a basically, inside the direct us instance that that we've shown here, on the page block level, we we just added a relationship to the variance. And, you know, we've got the corresponding logic inside the Next. Js application that basically just says, hey. Post all, give me the variance and then assigns one of those. But you could add the same relationship to other pieces of the website if you wanted to, whether that was, you know, your navigation, like, your navigation items, within the setup. So this, this CMS setup has navigation already built into it. You know, you could potentially link it there. You know, you could do, like, a a hybrid approach inside the code where you, you know, you hard code some of these tests, which are, like, a lot of the examples in post hoc just for simplicity's sake are are there. In our own experience, it's like I I tryna I kind of, like, look at it through the lens of, like, hey. Is this something we're we're gonna do often? Like, do I wanna test header elements often? If so, you know, it might make sense to enable your content editors to be able to do that. If it's, you know, like, a one and done test, you might just, add it to the code and and move on. So, hopefully, that's helpful. Let me throw up the well, I'll just post it here in the chat, if I can. What's going on? The screen share is stuck. Why is this not working? Something's going on. Okay. I can't post the link here in the chat. Matt, if you're around, post this link in the chat for me. My screen is fouling up as it often does on these demos. We'll we'll definitely send this out in a newsletter after the webinar as well, but, there's a repo where you can get all the source code. If you have any questions, feel free to follow-up with us. On the Directus side of things, we are also offering a special little promo. And I can't get this to yeah. Hey. The screen share thing is just spinning for me. So that's where we're at with it. Uriah, thanks for joining, man. I really enjoyed this. You know, this has been a fun project, and I I appreciate your support and your help along the way. Likewise. Excellent. We'll have a recording out for everyone. And with that, thank you, and good night. Thank you, everybody. Good luck. 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